We're not gonna die. We can't die, Bendis. You know why? Because we are so very pretty. We are just too pretty for God to let us die.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Natter 52: Playing with a full deck?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Jun 04, 2007 1:17:53 pm PDT #1001 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What's the technical definition of separated here? Does it apply both before and after divorce has been filed for?


Trudy Booth - Jun 04, 2007 1:19:03 pm PDT #1002 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

wikipedia and no-fault divorce: [link]

basically, its a commie innovation


askye - Jun 04, 2007 1:20:14 pm PDT #1003 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

In my brother's case he and his wife had to live apart, file some paperwork (I think) and maybe a few other things BEFORE they could even file for divorce.

The actual process of filling out and filing the paperwork and getting the divorce was fairly quick (considering he was living in another country).


bon bon - Jun 04, 2007 1:22:27 pm PDT #1004 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I have what may be an anarchist bent, and would love to think that adults know when they're done.

Some states like it one way, and states like California don't require separation. You can choose where you live and where you marry. Such is the supposed benefit of the federalist system. After awhile all legislative policy starts looking like moralizing. And for myself I think on the macropolitical level it is preferable to encourage marriage, even though I don't think divorce laws do that.


§ ita § - Jun 04, 2007 1:28:25 pm PDT #1005 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You can choose where you live and where you marry.

If I marry in one state but live somewhere else, and then divorce in a third state, is there a consistent way to determine what law applies where?

(now I'm off reading Wikipedia on legal fiction--if only any of this information would be useful or retained)


brenda m - Jun 04, 2007 1:32:35 pm PDT #1006 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Grrr. Who sends jobs to the communal printer requiring 8.5 by 12 paper, thereby blocking the whole print queue until they remember to go and fucking load their mutant paper?


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 04, 2007 1:34:39 pm PDT #1007 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Is it still defenestration if you smash someone's head through the copier glass?


bon bon - Jun 04, 2007 1:40:34 pm PDT #1008 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

If I marry in one state but live somewhere else, and then divorce in a third state, is there a consistent way to determine what law applies where?

Yes; so-called "choice-of-law" principles apply in general to any suit where the laws of different jurisdictions are relevant. AFAIK the laws of the state you are getting the divorce from apply (to the divorce). I would guess that in most states, they will only grant a divorce if you married there or if one or both parties are resident. I would direct you to this wikipedia page but I find it incomprehensible: [link]


§ ita § - Jun 04, 2007 1:50:34 pm PDT #1009 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, I cleared up a semantic issue early on in that page, but then I got dizzy. And it reminded me of a Wikipedia article of this morning (I do work, I swear it) with the woman who was trying to get all mention of Islam off her identity card so that she could marry her Christian love. Apparently Malaysia doesn't allow inter-marriages.

People are weird.


sarameg - Jun 04, 2007 2:22:49 pm PDT #1010 of 10001

When my brother lived with his now-wife in TX, they discovered that state's crazy common law stuff. Texas is apparently fairly loose in its definitions. From what I understand, all it takes is that you live together and represent yourselves as married. After a couple years of that, I think you gotta get a divorce to end it.