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Spike's Bitches 36: Did I Sully Our Good Name?  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


tommyrot - Aug 03, 2007 11:16:58 am PDT #9915 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Well, she's 40, so they can't keep this up *too* much longer.

Maybe this is where the "gifts from God" thing comes in....


Fred Pete - Aug 03, 2007 11:18:33 am PDT #9916 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Yes, if you can manage it, nothing wrong with big families. I have to wonder whether the younger kids are getting lost in the shuffle. Not to mention, how healthy can it be for kids to grow up by making TV specials about their daily lives?

Sparky, that may be happening relatively soon. She's 40 and can't have too many childbearing years left.


Sparky1 - Aug 03, 2007 11:19:53 am PDT #9917 of 10001
Librarian Warlord

Well, she's 40, so they can't keep this up *too* much longer.

...and my imagination turns to wonder the pressure they'll put on the daughters to start having children...

E-gad. I do not think nice thoughts.


Fred Pete - Aug 03, 2007 11:25:49 am PDT #9918 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

The older kids have experience in growing up in a very large family. So I can see them going one of two ways. Some will probably embrace the idea and try for large families of their own. (But will they be able to support large families?) And some will have children only over their dead bodies.


Susan W. - Aug 03, 2007 11:26:08 am PDT #9919 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

...and my imagination turns to wonder the pressure they'll put on the daughters to start having children...

At a guess, based on my knowledge of the sort of theology and lifestyle that goes with the quiverfull movement, there's probably not a strong expectation that the girls will go to college. Apparently one of the latest Big Things is that you remain a part of your father's household until you marry, and instead of dating you have a sort of pseudo-arranged marriage through courtship with input from both sets of parents. Not that I know the Duggars buy into that part of the movement. Pure speculation, here. One of my online hobbies just happens to be lurking on quiverfull/dominionist sites and blogs and just boggling at how different it is from the Christianity I've experienced, including back when I was more conservative/evangelical than mainline.


Laura - Aug 03, 2007 11:26:56 am PDT #9920 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

My Irish Grandparents were from huge families, 11, 12, 13 kids. I had zillions of great aunts and uncles. I enjoy the lively households with lots of kids (like 4-5 being my definition of lots). The grandparents were not nutty though, just Catholic.


Jessica - Aug 03, 2007 11:27:26 am PDT #9921 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Just to be clear -- it's not the number of kids that freak me out about the Duggars, it's the specific freakiness of the quiverful movement. It's one thing to have a lot of kids because you love being a parent, it's another to literally believe that an empty uterus makes the baby Jesus cry. That the whole value of a woman is how many little Christian soldiers she can produce. Makes my skin crawl.

...and my imagination turns to wonder the pressure they'll put on the daughters to start having children...

Right now, the oldest daughters are too busy being surrogate moms for their younger siblings.


Laura - Aug 03, 2007 11:29:03 am PDT #9922 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

And some will have children only over their dead bodies.

Yes, the eldest of my SIL's 6 kids claims she will never get married or have children. She already raised 5 of them. Her mother and others think she will get over it. I don't think so. She is 30 now and never lets a relationship get serious.


Cashmere - Aug 03, 2007 11:29:38 am PDT #9923 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I don't think the Duggers are ignorant. The father is an elected representative and they seem educated and pretty decent people. They are very religious but they don't seem to think that everyone needs to live like they do.

Can't really say anything about their obsession with J's considering my own with O's.

I secretly wonder how they deal with their children if the kids question their lifestyle and profess a desire to cut their hair (girls) or wear clothes that don't match.


Trudy Booth - Aug 03, 2007 11:30:14 am PDT #9924 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

The older kids have experience in growing up in a very large family. So I can see them going one of two ways. Some will probably embrace the idea and try for large families of their own. (But will they be able to support large families?) And some will have children only over their dead bodies.

My Dad is one of eight. They all opted for two or three.

Everyone gets along and they spend a lot of time with their siblings, but my Grandparents sacrificed a lot to have that brood and I don't think that appealed to any of their children (one it might have, but he and his wife (one of 7 herself) started too late to get out more than the two that they did).