ok, question, as I have no sense when it comes to dating, and apparently online dating is no better. If you are having a great e-mail exchange with someone, when do you say "hey let's meet for a cup of coffee"? Even tho the e-mails seem to go well, and both of us have "meeting new people" and/or "LTR" listed in profile, seems whenever I suggest that, the line goes cold. I've waited for like 3 or 4 volleys of e-mails. I'm starting to think that is too soon. But then when?

I know.. I know... Patience is a virtue.

You're starting to sound like me with my closing date that I still don't have ;)

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You're fucking kidding. Oy.

Ach, Bev. Sorry, hon. Mellow ~ma and cabana boys headed your way.

If there were rules, I'd be getting laid. Or at least know precisely why (well, outside of the migraines) I'm not.

I suck at online dating, but the coffee discussion does tend to come up around 3 or 4 volleys in. Maybe try waiting? Maybe put that you'd like to meet for coffee quickly in your profile?

Mind, I am (was) a theater person, so most of my relationships have been with fellow (insane!) actors/directors. In that case, there is no coffee, there is just insanity.

And I know you are theater as well, but I think you've learned to avoid the insanity.

Ya, I try not to date Directors. Actress tend to look my over, as I am neither tall, dark or handsome. I've had luck with Stage Managers & Costumers. But ya, we all are a lil screwy in the head. Best to have just one of those in a relationship.

The problem with waiting is.. well.. as the guy, shouldn't I take the initiative. I know that sounds horribly old fashioned, but garrum it, it doesn't seem that many ladies do...and those that do have BF's.

but I think you've learned to avoid the insanity.

Nope, I hang out with him all the time.

My south is preppy, tanned, and well-groomed. You don't leave the house without getting pretty.

This is my South as well.

Step outside and remind yourself about the humid South.

As is this.

Throw in some religious fundamentalism and extreme judgement and you've got it!

I just got back from a matinee of The Simpsons. I am going to be stuck on Spider Pig for long time.

o this has to be one of the funniest things I've read all day:

In a interview with CBS News White House correspondent Mark Knoller, the vice president also said Gonzales has been truthful in his testimony before Congress.

So? Does that mean he really doesn't know anything? Has amnesia? They used the MIB Red blinkie light thing on him before his testimony???

I also love the typo that CBS website put out... not that I am a grammar warden or something... but I do believe "in a interview" should be "In an interview".

Clearly I'm too bored at work today.

The problem with waiting is.. well.. as the guy, shouldn't I take the initiative. I know that sounds horribly old fashioned, but garrum it, it doesn't seem that many ladies do...and those that do have BF's.

I swear I have no idea what the deal is... all through my single life I would, every now and then, take the initiative and do the asking because it seemed so unfair that the guys have to do it all the damn time, and every single time I tried I got shot down. So I finally stopped. Though, really, that was still only about five or six times in three years. I have no idea if that's the usual, a half-dozen offered coffee dates before one actually succeeds in happening, but it got me (a) very sympathetic about guys and the expectation that of course they should always ask, and (b) completely discouraged about trying again myself.

So, in short, omnis, humans=confusing, and I have no idea what advice to offer. Except that if I were single and signed up for online dating and I'd gotten a nice conversation rolling, it wouldn't even occur to me to say no to a coffee date. Isn't decent conversation and coffee dates the point of the whole exhausting enterprise? Which just leads back to humans=confusing.

Ya JZ, one would think. But it's worse than that. Literally, once I ask, there is NO RESPONSE at all! Not even a "whoa big boy, your moving too fast". Just nothing again. Mmmm ok. I can take a hint I suppose.

Ya, with you on the humans = confusing. Maybe I'm not human. I'm perfectly logical and always makes sense. Maybe I'm Vulcan.

Nope, that confirms it. I'm just a bid dork. Which probably explains why I'm still single.