Angel: Connor, this is Spike and Illyria. Guys, this is Connor. Connor: Hi. umm...I like your outfit. Illyria: Your body warms. This one is lusting after me. Connor: Oh...no, I--I--it's just that it's the outfit. I guess I've had a thing for older women. Angel: They were supposed to fix that.

'Origin'


Experimental TV: Comedy  

This thread is part of an experiment to determine Buffistas' interest in television discussion. It will close on June 1st, 2007, after which there will be a brief skirmish to sort out what we want to do next. This thread is for discussion of all comedy, regardless of airing station. [NAFDA]


Jesse - May 11, 2007 7:59:42 am PDT #315 of 447
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Too bad Michael seems to be a good salesman. Stupid Peter Principle. He would be double-disaster in the corp. offices in New York!

And I feel really bad for Toby, too, Fred.


esse - May 11, 2007 8:07:02 am PDT #316 of 447
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Oh, man, The Office for the win!

Pam just rocked in this episode, rocked so much. From wearing her hair differently to being super-snarky to WALKING THROUGH FIRE and then finally, FINALLY speaking her mind--this is pretty much the episode I have waited all season for.

Jim's face was like the verse of Pam's during Casino Night--wide-eyed and shocky, like they never expected to hear what they're hearing.

The thing is, I kind of sympathized more with Jim--he put himself on the line not once, but twice, and then got rejected both times. I thought it was ridiculous for Pam to expect him to put it all on the line again , even if she cancelled her wedding. It was her turn to make the move, and she waited so, so long to do so.

But I feel for Pam too--the way she has gone through life, she had never really said *anything* until Jim came along and they both snarked behind everyone else's back. So for her to stand up for herself, her feelings, and damn the consequences--for *her* to put it all on the line--shows just how much she's grown. And it was important for her to do that independantly of Jim, and narratively for them to have some space, because she needs to be independent for herself and not as a result of Jim, or thinking her independence is a result of Jim.

And Karen. Man, what a sucky thing to deal with. The first thing on her mind is whether Jim is going to leave her, which is why I don't think that was bitchiness on her face. I think that was fear. She has good stuff going on, and now it's going to be undermined because of things that aren't bad, not really, and things that aren't in her control, but still suck for her. She knows that something is going to change for her, and it's not fair, but it's how it will happen.

This was a good episode, in that I only had to fast-forward through one part--the bit where Michael was trying to force others to walk along the coals but couldn't man up to do it himself.

Also, I don't think that Karen and Jim calling about the job were about undermining Michael. I think it was more Michael's unwitting gall of "I'm the most qualified," which I think would be so insulting if I were Jim or Karen.

Gosh, what an ep. Do we get another 40 minutes next week?


Polter-Cow - May 11, 2007 8:09:57 am PDT #317 of 447
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

This was a good episode, in that I only had to fast-forward through one part--the bit where Michael was trying to force others to walk along the coals but couldn't man up to do it himself.

SA, that was one part where I thought, "Hm, if this weren't a supersized episode, maybe this wouldn't be taking so long." Usually, I don't have a problem with the longer episodes; I don't notice the filler and just appreciate the extra funny.

Do we get another 40 minutes next week?

We get an HOUR. Which may be what we get all next season. I wonder if they double everyone's salaries if that happens.


esse - May 11, 2007 8:13:20 am PDT #318 of 447
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Oh, you know, I think I could go for having an hour of The Office every week.


lisah - May 11, 2007 8:53:24 am PDT #319 of 447
Punishingly Intricate

I don't know if I want the Office to be an hour-long show. I like the idea of MORE Office for sure but it works so well with that 1/2 hour (or 22 minute) constraint. I worry it will get too flabby.


erikaj - May 11, 2007 9:08:15 am PDT #320 of 447
Always Anti-fascist!

Toby's big crime with Michael is thinking like an adult. Go, Pam!


Polter-Cow - May 11, 2007 10:31:06 am PDT #321 of 447
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Watch it again and again and again. It's perfect every time.


Topic!Cindy - May 11, 2007 10:31:17 am PDT #322 of 447
What is even happening?

We get an HOUR. Which may be what we get all next season. I wonder if they double everyone's salaries if that happens.

I read that NBC announced there would be 24 episodes next season, with four of those being an hour long. I might have read this early today. My brain is still pretty much all PAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! with a side of: Sunil, you have e-mail.


Polter-Cow - May 11, 2007 10:39:02 am PDT #323 of 447
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Not bad.


Topic!Cindy - May 11, 2007 1:12:34 pm PDT #324 of 447
What is even happening?

I did the coal walk! Just...I did it. Michael, you couldn't even do that. Maybe I should be your boss.

Wow I feel really good right now.

Why didn't any of you come to my art show? I invited all of you! That really sucked. It's like sometimes some of you act like I don't even exist.

Jim, I called off my wedding because of you. And now we're not even friends. And things are just -- like -- weird between us and that sucks. And I miss you. You were my best friend before you went to Stamford. I really miss you.

I shouldn't have been with Roy. And there were a lot of reasons to call off my wedding, but the truth is I didn't care about any of those reasons until I met you, and now you're with someone else, and that's fine, it's -- whatever -- that's not what I'm -- I'm not...

Okay, my feet really hurt.

The thing that I'm just trying to say to you Jim, and to everyone else in the circle I guess, is that I miss having fun with you. Just you, not everyone in the circle. Okay. I am gonna go walk in the water now. Yeah. It's a good day.