Um, yeah, that whole cannibal thing was just horrific in every way. I felt vomitous with the whole "tenderizing" thing.
Good episode for Ianto, though. It's not every day you get to smirk at a cannibal before head-butting him.
Xander: Look who's got a bad case of Dark Prince envy. Dracula: Leave us. Xander: No, we're not going to "Leabbb you." And where'd you get that accent, Sesame Street? "One, Two, Three - three victims! Maw ha ha!"
'Lessons'
Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.
Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.
This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.
Dana - Oct 15, 2007 5:11:21 am PDT #7505 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Nora Deirdre - Oct 15, 2007 5:26:31 am PDT #7506 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)
Totally good episode for Ianto.
Mmmm, Ianto.
sumi - Oct 15, 2007 6:49:10 am PDT #7507 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
Speaking of Torchwood you can vote for the dvd boxed set cover starting today.
Liese S. - Oct 15, 2007 7:51:37 am PDT #7508 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
It's not every day you get to smirk at a cannibal before head-butting him.
Yeah. Love.
I have other thinkier thoughts later, but mostly just, Ianto. Love.
sumi - Oct 15, 2007 8:44:14 am PDT #7509 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
Credits for Razor. I wonder if the presence of Doral in the credits means that the skinjobs were around longer than previously thought?
Scrappy - Oct 15, 2007 9:48:40 am PDT #7510 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
I am with Fay on the pheromone issue.
Vortex - Oct 15, 2007 9:54:37 am PDT #7511 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
I certainly respect your opinion, I just think that forcing someone to have sex against their will (she clearly was not interested in him) is rape.
Jon B. - Oct 15, 2007 10:09:50 am PDT #7512 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
he used the stuff on himself rather than on them. And although, yes, it clearly rendered him irresistible in a Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered fashion, and then some, I don't think this is a direct parallel with slipping some girl a date rape drug and then fucking her while she's incapacitated.
So... Spray someone else with a Magic/Alien!Drug that makes them want to sleep with you is date rape, but spray yourself with a drug that makes others want to sleep with you is not? Aren't these simply two different delivery systems with the exact same effect?
Was what Warren did to his ex-girlfriend (forget her name) on Buffy date rape?
Kate P. - Oct 15, 2007 11:02:16 am PDT #7513 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love
I definitely come down firmly on the date rape side of the issue, but I do think it depends on how you see the effects of the drug. If you think, as I do, that the effect was to render the woman and her boyfriend incapable of making their own decision about whether or not to sleep with Owen, essentially rendering them unable to give or refuse consent, then you're likely to think of it as rape. If you think the drug's effect was less about overriding their ability to give consent and more about amplifying their susceptibility to Owen's, er, charms, then you're more likely to think of it as seduction.
Jon B. - Oct 15, 2007 11:10:02 am PDT #7514 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
That's a good distinction, Kate. The problem, of course, is that it's a slippery slope -- At what point does "amplifying susceptibility" become "removing all free will"? It's tricky enough when you're dealing with alcohol; when you're talking magical alien technology, it's almost impossible to say.