Gunn: The final score can't be rigged. I don't care how many players you grease, that last shot always comes up a question mark. But here's the thing. You never know when you're taking it. It could be when you're duking it out with the Legion of Doom, or just crossing the street deciding where to have brunch. So you just treat it like it was up to you—the world in balance—'cause you never know when it is.

'Underneath'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Dana - Oct 06, 2007 2:53:13 pm PDT #7250 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

There was no SGA talk. I mean, I could have said something, but I figure you guys sometimes get tired of hearing me burble.

It does sort of suck that they can't figure out a way to make characters interesting *before* they write them out, rather than during. They did it to Ford too. But I'm glad Elizabeth got to go down saving everyone and kicking some replicator ass, and I suspect we'll see her again, probably around the mid-season break.


§ ita § - Oct 06, 2007 4:14:07 pm PDT #7251 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I did like her steely showdown with the Faith Heritage guy. She'd been not much of anything for most of the series so far. So that was kinda nice.

Now, if they could only make Teyla interesting, that'd rock.

Was there any meta about Ford being written out?


Dana - Oct 06, 2007 4:16:29 pm PDT #7252 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Was there any meta about Ford being written out?

Eh, I don't know. I think it was probably not a good match on both sides, but I don't know who initiated what, if anything. I do know that based on interviews and commentaries, I'd find Rainbow Francks really irritating in person.


§ ita § - Oct 06, 2007 4:25:08 pm PDT #7253 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's weird. SGA just hasn't gotten rid of people emotionally effectively. Ford, Weir, doctor guy--I didn't get any of the impact or sadness of losing Doyle or Oz or even the snitch demon whose name escapes me.

I guess it's not weird. It's SGA. SG1, bless them, got me almost every time they killed the team. And they killed them a lot.


Juliebird - Oct 06, 2007 4:25:35 pm PDT #7254 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Was there any meta about Ford being written out?

I thought I had heard that he was too similar to Shep's character (boyish, fun-loving, irreverant, blah blah). So... why did they write that character in the first place? And I didn't find them similar. And I liked that he sorta hero-worshipped Shep. He was so much more of a kid than Shep. Shep was the charming, immature, lonely outsider who transferred mid-term to another school with no family or friends, and Ford was the bright and chipper sophmore who thought he was cool but thought the new kid was cooler and latched on. I liked their dynamic.


sumi - Oct 06, 2007 4:25:36 pm PDT #7255 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

BTW, I watched the second episode of Moonlight - it was the one written by David Greenwalt and was quite a lot of fun. Unfortunately, given that this was the only one he was involved in (I think) - I have my doubts that the fun will continue. One thing: at least Beth knows that Mick is a vampire.


Juliebird - Oct 06, 2007 4:35:33 pm PDT #7256 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

crap, forgot about Moonlight! Streaming it now.

The title card makes me laugh. I think of Sesame Street when they're teaching you how to say a word.

Moon.....Light.

Moon...Light.

Moon.Light.

Moonlight!


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 06, 2007 4:39:35 pm PDT #7257 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I thought it was a pretty good swan song for the Weir character on SGA, despite being very unhappy with the behind-the-scenes situation that resulted in her departure "needing" to be written. The character was well-served by the story, and her sacrifice (lethal or not) actually meant something rather than being the pointless result of a drive-by tumor explosion.

But things did irritate: despite it making sense for Teyla to be left out of the action since someone needs to be around to lead in the absence of everyone higher in the chain of command than Chuck, it still felt like just one more marginalization of her character to throw on the pile. And checking my watch, I see it's half-past time for Rodney to shut the fuck up.


sumi - Oct 06, 2007 4:51:34 pm PDT #7258 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Really love how creepy this episode of Torchwood is.


Dana - Oct 06, 2007 4:52:05 pm PDT #7259 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Oh, this should be Countrycide. Heh.