Ianto's good looking. Owen, so not.

I know, right? Because (so spoily your milk is turning into cheese) they go on, around all those things, because you have to go on. But they aren't ever forgotten, and Jack puts it all back in front of them. And it's so brutal.

It's one of the things I love about this show; that they all take so much damage, and it changes them, and they can't be the same people anymore in the face of it. And yet, there they are, human and wretched and flawed and having to deal with it all, you know?

Owen, so not.

Bwah! There are certain angles for Owen. But Ianto, well he's just Ianto, now isn't he...

I'm pleased to see some Torchwood love. I think it's a much better show than it generally gets credit for.

Liese! I am so glad you love this show! Please continue saying smart things about it!

Ianto's a baby. I'm still not used to people on TV being younger than me. Burn Gorman is several years older than Gareth David-Lloyd, and a few inches shorter. I also think Burn Gorman is the best actor they have on the show, with easily the hardest job.

Hee. Well, I watched it out of step with everyone. At first I was all virtuous about not downloading. Then I heard it wasn't going to be aired, and I figured, well, okay then. Then I downloaded everything and it sat on my hard drive forever, because I was on the road and scared to watch it in the room with, say, my in-laws. Then I watched, but didn't have online access, so I was freaked out all by myself.

Then I heard it was going to be aired after all and my rationalization went pfft, which prevented me from downloading the rest of the Who season, but, clearly, not the rest of Torchwood.

So it's kind of nice to be watching it now with some context and community.

Burn Gorman is the best actor they have on the show, with easily the hardest job.

I agree wholeheartedly.

Heh. I happened to stumble across a repeat of Bleak House last night. I had almost forgotten how extremely good he was in that too.

No, I can't -- they look too much alike to me. What's the secret?

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...gosh. That's - well, gosh. See, that's a striking example of how one's facial recognition software is subjective, and shaped by that which is familar, I guess. I mean, I remember last year that for the first two weeks I was constantly mixing up 3 little girls in my class and had real difficulty telling them apart. Whereas after a while it just boggled me that I had ever thought they looked alike at all. So it's not like I think you're a freak, because I have been in the same boat - but, gosh.

'Cause to me that sounds as odd as saying that one can't tell the difference between Faith and Drusilla, or Wesley and Doyle. They have totally different facial features, totally different accents, totally different dress styles, body language and personalities. One is a nice-looking and diffident Welsh bloke in a suit and tie, while the other is a wiry little terrier of a bloke from London who struts around barking out insults and acting like he's the sexiest thing in the history of the world, despite the fact that he has a face like a (not wholly unattractive) underfed frog.

However, in the spirit of that How To Identify Your Hobbit summary*, here is a quick guide to identifying your Torchwood Agent:

Is it a brunette who is failing utterly to flirt with any of her coworkers? Then it's Toshiko.

Is it a brunette with Manga eyes and a rather charming gap between her front teeth? Then it's Gwen.

Is every line of dialogue either flirtation or insult? Then it's either Jack or Owen. If said dialogue is coming from a big strapping fella with retro clothing and an agressively American accent, then it's Jack. If it's coming from a small wiry bloke with a Cockney accent and a scowl, then it's Owen.

Is it a bloke wearing a suit and tie and carrying a tray of hot drinks/cleaning something up? Then it's Ianto.

I agree that Burn Gorman is a v. good actor, and better than most of the others. I really enjoy Owen, actually. I'm also very sorry that Suzi Costello got killed off, though - I thought she was very good.

( *How To Identify Your Hobbit: If he looks like knows what's going on, it's Frodo. If he looks like he's JUST NOW realised what's going on, he's Merry. If he clearly has absolutely no idea what the hell is going on, but would quite like a sandwich, it's Pippin. If he's carrying a load of pots and pans and looking protective, he's Sam.)

No, I know the feeling. I went to school with a set of twins, and I couldn't tell Pat and Pam apart until 5th grade. Once I figured it out, it was easy.

And Pat was a girl. So that wouldn't work.