I'm sorry, dad. You know I would never have tried to save River's life if I had known there was a dinner party at risk.

Simon ,'Safe'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Vortex - Aug 26, 2007 8:38:44 am PDT #5822 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Right. So, I figured if she can fit in Elizabethan England with nary a second glance why should Edwardian England be any different?

but she shouldn't have, that's my point.

But wouldn't people have found a black person somewhat of a wonder in Elizabethan England? Even in London?

yes, but there is a difference between finding someone different and finding them inferior. Of course, the issue in this ep is probably more class than race.


sumi - Aug 26, 2007 8:46:50 am PDT #5823 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

But, I think that the show has taken the decision to NOT make anything of race and they pretty much haven't.

I agree that the stuff this week was much more about class than race.


Vortex - Aug 26, 2007 9:42:38 am PDT #5824 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

But, I think that the show has taken the decision to NOT make anything of race and they pretty much haven't.

and it doesn't make any sense.


sumi - Aug 26, 2007 9:44:56 am PDT #5825 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

No, I'm guessing it's their version of color-blind casting.


Vortex - Aug 26, 2007 9:51:10 am PDT #5826 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

It's all or none. If you are doing color blind casting, then it's not even alluded to at all. You can't just refer to color when it's convenient for the plot and ignore it at all other times.


§ ita § - Aug 26, 2007 11:01:42 am PDT #5827 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not going to hoist them on a petard of colour-blind casting, because it's a generally selectively blind casting issue. Race, clothing, speech, gender--none of it matters except when it matters. I shrug and let it slide. It would be tiresome if it always mattered realistically but I'm not pissed if they use it every now and again.


Vortex - Aug 26, 2007 11:40:11 am PDT #5828 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

True. I just find it annoying. It's not that difficult to think about it and make it work. Just a few people staring at Martha in amazement in the Shakespeare Code would have it work.


sumi - Aug 26, 2007 12:39:07 pm PDT #5829 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

BTW, Martha's sister Tish (okay, the actress that plays Tish) was in Miss Marple this week (Ordeal by Innocence) - it also featured Richard Armitage and that red-headed guy from Keen Eddie.


Theresa - Aug 26, 2007 2:31:17 pm PDT #5830 of 10001
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

that red-headed guy from Keen Eddie.

I like him. I never remember anything other than that red headed guy from Keen Eddie that has three names though.


sumi - Aug 26, 2007 2:39:42 pm PDT #5831 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Exactly. Well, his two last names are particularly odd.