A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
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Hmm. I disagree with the lowering of status. Donald Trump would...well, I don't want to think about it. But when you have good looking muscled guys naked, I think their status is entirely dependent on what they do next. Stark could be naked and it not be funny--so could Carter. You're right about Fargo in that he can't choose, but I don't see that as a reversal, just a limitation earned by him being low status.
Allison couldn't be powerful naked. Now, scantily clad she can wield power, but I think it would be clearly a sexual power, whereas a naked man's power is more symbolic. It's not that we want to touch his penis, it's that we're scared and impressed by him having one larger than we could ever imagine.
I think.
Last season, we had Allyson gratuitously in her underwear and catfighting with Beverly for no better reason than chicks fighting is hawt.
Blink.
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Bwah.
(Okay, I kind of had a mental doubletake and then realized. . . umm, is there a buffista on the writing staff naming the characters?)
I don't know how on earth to COMM that, but I really really want to.
Bwah! I never noticed that before.
Good-looking muscled guys naked could be funny, or not, depending on context. But good-looking muscly guys are almost by definition at the top of the social heap.
pausing to ponder a heap of good-looking muscly guys
Lowering, say, Stark's, social status with the funny nudity still wouldn't lower him to, say, Fargo's social level. Nor would it lower him to a woman's social level, even if she were clothed - a naked man among women may feel a lot of things, but afraid isn't (normally) one of them.
You're right about Fargo in that he can't choose, but I don't see that as a reversal, just a limitation earned by him being low status.
I didn't say Fargo being naked would be a reversal; it wouldn't. Fargo being more powerful than Stark was a role-reversal.
Few women can manage to be powerful when naked or scantily-clad, unless it's sexual power, and that's very context-dependent. And a double-edged sword.
whereas a naked man's power is more symbolic. It's not that we want to touch his penis, it's that we're scared and impressed by him having one larger than we could ever imagine.
ahahaha!
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Male nudity being powerful is also very context-dependent. Context in that case being sex or aggression.
There's a good reason you haven't heard anything good: It's not good. Except for the scantily clad wimmen.
The three major examples of whom could all have been struck from the same mold. I half expect Flash to say something followed by "Isn't that right, Dale?" and have Aura answer "I'm not Dale."
eta: Painkiller Jane has been put out of our misery. [link]
OK - so I take it that when I decided never to watch (this version) of FG again after the first half hour, I have no reason to regret that decision?
If you are ever in the mood, there was an X-rated animated parody of Flash Gordon some decades ago (Flesh Gordon). It was pretty funny (, and (IMO) actually a decent distillation of the cheezy fun of the original. Don't want to exaggerate - nothing even a little bit subtle - a lot of it is the kind of humor reasonably clever 13 year boys might come up with when feeling horny and frustrated.
Flesh Gordon was a classic of its genre.
Huh -- a group of us went to see Flesh Gordon in college together for a laugh, and we all wound up walking out halfway through because it was so boring. (It wasn't animated, though, it was live action. Maybe it was done twice?)
