Did they really have to make a black guy the ultimate muscle, though? Did they really feel the need to have a dead lesbian? One doomed to kill by touching? I am making a wee frowny face at them right now.

I was too.

Okay, we are done West Coast, right? I'm on your time now, but I was all worried I'd just posted episode analysis in the middle of your watch & post. I'm always so confused because I'm on satellite and I never have any idea what time zone my locals are in.

So, reposting now...

I was going to make a weebl & Dean icon, but after all the sad I can't.

I was so glad to see Ava (and okay, Andy) back, but they were with us for so short a time! I felt whiplashed by it. Ava's not missing! But in trouble! But turned evil! But dead! I wish I'd had more time to deal with her storyline.

However, I find it plausible and not unsympathetic that she's have gotten to the point where she is. If she really had been there for all five months, kill or be killed that whole time, I can see where you'd get to the point where kill seemed like a reasonable option, especially if it turned out you were good at it.

In a sense, if you had the skills and the YED motivation, it would almost seem like suicide not to kill. Which, yeah, probably right where the YED wants you. Which it was, in the end, for Sam!

Oh, Sam, Sammy, please be not dead Sammy! Also, I was all, pressure on the wound, Dean! But, if dead, maybe anguished hugs more appropriate. Please be not dead, Sam!

And also, why didn't you pick up both weapons when you realized you were fighting and decided to go for it? 'Cause leaving the knife there was just dumb.

Lots of new information in this ep. How reliable a narrator do we think the YED was being when he showed Sam his babyhood?

Also, totally agree with PMM about the stereotyping. At first I was all, great, the black guy's the redshirt. Then he wasn't. Then the lesbian went all schmuck-baity. And I rolled my eyes forever. Because it would be Wrong to Touch Another Woman, and in the end she must Hang for it. Then I was hoping for partnership and a relationship outside of his brother's with someone who had power like him and also understood the internal struggle in a way Dean never will. But no. Because Minorities Can Not Be Trusted and it's always possible they will Stab You In The Not-Metaphorical Back. Pfah, I say to you.

But it sounds a little muffled when I say it because I'm saying it through all the rest of the episode flail.

I am going to miss Ash, and Eva, and Andy, and the Roadhouse. I realize now that I should have expected it, after last year's killing off of Jim and Caleb, but DAMN.

Especially with Ash and the Roadhouse.

I refuse to believe Ellen is dead until I have to.

So the set up for next week/season:

(given that Sam is of course, NOT DEAD)

Where is Ellen, and is she pissed enough to be anti-Boys?

What about the other generations?

How did Mary know the demon?

Where is the YED getting his Army, how close is he to having it ready, and why is he raising it?

What else is there?

Ray Voodoo Tatum!

sumi, was it?? I thought so!

Where is Ellen, and is she pissed enough to be anti-Boys?

Well, this Evil seems to be big enough and aimed at a scattered enough area that I don't think she can blame it on Sam and Dean. It didn't land on the Roadhouse specifically because of connections to them, especially if the YED is planning to OMG Wipe Out Humanity/End The World or whatever his evil plan is.

It didn't land on the Roadhouse specifically because of connections to them, especially if the YED is planning to OMG Wipe Out Humanity/End The World or whatever his evil plan is.

I think it did-- Ash was looking for information for Dean, on Sam, and the Demon, and told Dean he had found something big that wasn't directly about where Sam was, but might help him find Sam, and Dean and Bobby were headed to the roadhouse to hear what it was.

When do people think Eva turned evil?

Was it right after she left Sam in Hunted (meaning she was probably the one who killed her fiance), or did she get taken to CreepyAssTown, SD and then turn evil?

But how would Ava have survived there for five months, on her own? I get her killing any others who showed up, but she is still human -- what the hell did she eat? Her reveal, now that I think about it, was poorly done, because now I don't know if she *knew* her fiancee was dead or what.

Also, I have to say, in the first episode she was in, when Sam and Dean found her fiancee and all the blood and her ring, I immediately thought Ava *was* a demon, or in league with one.

The Dead Lesbian pinged me a little bit, but Jake as the ultimate strength didn't, because I read him much more as *soldier* than as black.

But how would Ava have survived there for five months, on her own? I get her killing any others who showed up, but she is still human -- what the hell did she eat? Her reveal, now that I think about it, was poorly done, because now I don't know if she *knew* her fiancee was dead or what.

I like the idea of Ava's reveal, but how it was handled was poorly executed now that I'm looking at it in the harsh light of dawn. How hard would it have been for her to "accidentally" led the others to a stash of food, or to toss a wee (very wee) bit of exposition into the reveal.

I had been hoping for some sort of killer montage (a la "Carry on My Wayward Son") at the beginning of this ep, but I have a feeling that we'll have something at the beginning of next week's ep. I also have a feeling that it will make me cry. (If they ever, for any reason, do a montage to "Desperado" I think I will drown in my own tears - that song is an automatic cry-trigger for me.)