Dreg: Glory, Your Most Fresh-And-Cleanness. It's only a matter of time-- Glory: Ugh, everything always takes time! What about my time? Does anyone appreciate I'm on a schedule here?! Tick tock, Dreg! Tick freakin' tock!

'Sleeper'


Natter Area 51: The Truthiness Is in Here  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - May 14, 2007 7:52:30 am PDT #7203 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Dude. Not strident. Just startled. I thought I was having a discussion of the impact of the statement--not so much the statement itself. Totally not a personal discussion for me.


beekaytee - May 14, 2007 7:55:04 am PDT #7204 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

my reaction to it is completely irrelevant here. I'm just wondering about the impact of that statement--I can see it having one like ChiKat had. And that might detract from the general positivity of the article, which I think is remarkable in its rockingness.

This was exactly my reaction. The last bit just seemed irrelevant and potentially distracting from the overall benefit of his attitude and work.

Jessica, you make a very good point about the question to which that statement responded.


§ ita § - May 14, 2007 7:57:08 am PDT #7205 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I seem to have skipped right by that because I read it as being about self-acceptance and being viewed as socially and artistically on equal footing. Not about 'we're sexy too!'

My general take on the thrust of the article was "Leonard Nimoy isn't looking at fat women the way society does...let's explore that, and the ripples that sends out."

So, yeah, it's not primarily about who he wants to have sex with, but beauty and sexual attractiveness are intertwined in our society, so the question doesn't strike me as unreasonable, unexpected, or out of context.


Lee - May 14, 2007 7:58:09 am PDT #7206 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

There's a ladder in my office. It's empty, so I am not really sure why it's here, other than to remind me that it's Monday and that I haven't had enough coffee yet, but there is one.


Jessica - May 14, 2007 8:00:20 am PDT #7207 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

It's an article about women in the NYTimes -- of course it's going to eventually come around to "yes, but are they fuckable?"

[eta: Which isn't to negate ita's point here, but the NYTimes is not lately known for its enlightened views on modern womanhood.]


§ ita § - May 14, 2007 8:02:40 am PDT #7208 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ha, Jessica!


beekaytee - May 14, 2007 8:03:01 am PDT #7209 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

"yes, but are they fuckable?"
Oy.


beth b - May 14, 2007 8:04:26 am PDT #7210 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I think the statement was like the ladder in Lee's office - awkwardly placed for no apparent reason.


§ ita § - May 14, 2007 8:06:18 am PDT #7211 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Does no one believe in ineffability anymore?


beekaytee - May 14, 2007 8:12:11 am PDT #7212 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

I think the statement was like the ladder in Lee's office - awkwardly placed for no apparent reason.

Nice one.