Angel: Just admit it: you think you're gonna ride in, save the day, and sweep Buffy off her--Spike: Like you're not thinking the same thing. Angel: I'm already seeing somebody. Spike: What, dog girl?

'The Girl in Question'


Natter Area 51: The Truthiness Is in Here  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Theodosia - May 12, 2007 2:28:47 pm PDT #6990 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Thanks, Ginger! Damn, those fore-edge paintings are amazing, particularly the videos!


Theodosia - May 12, 2007 2:30:39 pm PDT #6991 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Only, when you increase daylight when you're in the desert, you just get more heat.

Well, you just move around the times you deal with the heat, really.


Jesse - May 12, 2007 2:33:07 pm PDT #6992 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I always get a little weirded out by the fact that time is such an artificial construct that we can play with it the way we do with DST. If everyone on the planet agrees (or at least most of them) we just impose a new time on people. It's very strange.

Seriously. I mean, the real reason it stays light later in the summer is because of the movement of the earth. That seems fine by me. But then we change it up, and make that happen artificially earlier because of the decision of the government. Weird.


§ ita § - May 12, 2007 2:39:15 pm PDT #6993 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

you just move around the times you deal with the heat, really.

DST is bad enough--then some institutions shifting their hours by an hour because they need to compensate for the dealine with the heat hours? Crazy.

Of course, if everyone shifts, you might as well not have had DST in the first place.


sumi - May 12, 2007 2:42:57 pm PDT #6994 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I thought it was light, not heat?

Personally, I prefer that we have light in the morning earlier -- because I wake up better that way.


Ginger - May 12, 2007 2:46:42 pm PDT #6995 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Damn, those fore-edge paintings are amazing, particularly the videos!

Aren't they amazing? For years, I've harbored a fantasy that I pick up an old book in a flea market where they had never fanned the pages to see what they had and gotten a fore-edge painting for a song.


Cashmere - May 12, 2007 2:48:53 pm PDT #6996 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I thought it was light, not heat?

The issue is light in most of the world, but in Arizona, it's the heat. From Wikipedia:

Arizona did observe DST in 1967 under the Uniform Time Act when the state legislature did not enact an exemption statute that year. In March 1968, the DST exemption statute was enacted and the state of Arizona has not observed DST since 1967 (however, the large Navajo Indian Reservation, which extends from Arizona into two adjacent states, does). This is in large part due to energy conservation since the temperature in and around Phoenix and Tucson is hotter than any other large U.S. metropolitan area during the summer, resulting in more power usage from air conditioning units and evaporative coolers in homes and businesses. An extra hour of sunlight while people are active would cause people to run their cooling systems longer, thereby using more energy.


Hil R. - May 12, 2007 2:52:51 pm PDT #6997 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Lemon cupcakes are now in the oven. My apartment smells all lemony.


Liese S. - May 12, 2007 2:53:58 pm PDT #6998 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Okay, thanks Typo & Ginger. I may email you later for more info.

Arizona still doesn't switch?

We're the only (continental) ones now, since Indy caved! I feel quite crotchety about it. It's a thing. You young whippersnappers with your crazy, mixed up time! And actually, it's perfectly easy to live without it. We barely notice that you've all changed. Except for tv schedules. Which is just weird.

For a while, though, our entire family lived in non-change zones. We were in Arizona, my folks were in Hawaii & the SO's folks were in Indiana. We were very smug with our non-changingness.


§ ita § - May 12, 2007 3:00:58 pm PDT #6999 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My next door neighbour was hoarding my new flash drive. Sure, I had it shipped to the wrong apartment number, but he could have given it to me, you know?

Opened it and everything. When I knocked on his door, he knew just why I was there.

Hmmph. This is the same guy that's been parked in my parking spot since I moved here a few years ago. I tired of that fight fast. And my current parking spot lets me practice my parallel parking skills.