Mal: Does she understand that? River: She understands. She doesn't comprehend.

'Objects In Space'


Natter Area 51: The Truthiness Is in Here  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Lee - May 12, 2007 12:06:07 pm PDT #6959 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Glad I was inspirational, Robin.

My next task of the day is going to suck-- Ozzie has already been sedated, and now I have to finagle him into his crate, and take him to the vet.

Have I mentioned Ozzie really doesn't like the vet?


Hil R. - May 12, 2007 12:23:51 pm PDT #6960 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

PS, when I win a bunch of money, I'm definitely starting a vegan cupcake store.

I'm going to be baking some vegan lemon cupcakes tonight. Probably won't be as pretty as the professional ones, since my only method of frosting application is butter knife. (Also, they're not quite vegan, since I couldn't find any margarine without whey, so the frosting is slightly milk-derived.)


Jesse - May 12, 2007 12:42:04 pm PDT #6961 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Margarine isn't usually vegan? That's bananas! I mean, I get that it wasn't developed to be a vegan product, but still. Food science is weird.

After a couple of days of taking claritin, I didn't take it today, and feel better. Could it be the drugs that were making my head foggy? Could it be that it was actually a cold, and the million hours of sleep I got last night cured it? Could it be the rain the other night dampening down allergens? I'll never know. This is why I don't really like taking medicine.


Typo Boy - May 12, 2007 12:55:15 pm PDT #6962 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah, theo, I was wondering if anybody had those tankless water heaters and could talk about them. I would like to go that direction for the house, but if I can do radiant floor heating, I'll probably need a tank. Plus, I want to tie in a solar water heating system, and those have to have a storage tank. I'd just like to only have that one, and not a second one.

OK, have not had one, but know a bit about them. Some people do get by with just tankless heater, but normally they have passive solar heat provide almost all their heat. So the tankless heater provides hot water, and just runs to occasional extra cycle to provide backup heating to the house when the solar heat just won't do the job. In a normal house, even a normal solar house, where during heating season you need extra heat nearly every day , the extra cycles will shorten you tankless water heater too much; so if you want both tankless hot water, and radiant heating, you probably do need two tankless hot water heaters.


§ ita § - May 12, 2007 12:55:28 pm PDT #6963 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I just uploaded seven million pictures (approx) to provocateuse. Especially Venus. My eyes are tired.


Hil R. - May 12, 2007 12:59:36 pm PDT #6964 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Margarine isn't usually vegan? That's bananas! I mean, I get that it wasn't developed to be a vegan product, but still. Food science is weird.

I'm going to be using Smart Balance, since it seemed the healthiest of the options. For more normal margarines, the grocery store had Fleishman's and one other national brand, both with whey. (I was surprised that the Fleishman's was dairy -- they're a kosher brand, and most of the kosher brands make non-dairy margarine.)


Hil R. - May 12, 2007 1:04:16 pm PDT #6965 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I just checked my freezer. I've got 3/4 of a pound of non-dairy margarine there (a kosher brand, Mother's), but it's been there for at least a few years, so I'm thinking it's probably not something I want to put on the cupcakes. Plus, it's got partially hydrogenated oils, which I'm trying to avoid.


Liese S. - May 12, 2007 1:10:07 pm PDT #6966 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Thanks, Typo.

How do you break down your classifications of normal house, normal solar house & almost-entirely passive solar house? We're hoping to do a good deal of passive solar. We're aligned just off of true solar south (couldn't quite, because of narrow setbacks), lots of south side windows w/ overhangs, including a sunroom w/ s & e windows, and small high west-facing windows for ventilation. Stained concrete slab for thermal mass.

Then we hope to use the woodstove for secondary heat. So the radiant floors (if we end up going that way) will be tertiary. I read that the they actually don't pair up well with passive solar, because of the heating cycle...that passive solar heats the slab during the day, then cools off, radiant tubing heats the slab at night, but then it's still hot in the morning when the solar hits the slab again, so some is wasted. I think I could manage this with a timed zoned thermostat, and I would just have to deal with the wait time for the radiant to heat in the event that the day is cloudy. We don't have many cloudy days, and we generally know when we're going to get them. Do you have an opinion on that kind of efficacy? Is efficacy a word?

Whoo. Didn't mean to go into that much detail.

But anyway, I probably will need to do two tankless heaters anyway, because the future expansion bathroom is far away enough to need it. But if I can get away with one for the initial build, it would be nice. eta: And if I can use them at all sufficiently instead of a tank heater, I'll be happy with that.


Theodosia - May 12, 2007 1:11:49 pm PDT #6967 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Mmmmm lemon cupcakes.

It's as though margarine manufacturers think they have to include what's clearly a token amount of cow products, even down to the 2% or less category.

I dream daily of radiant heating in the wintertime. My house has a beautiful ceramic tile floor in the kitchen, which is like walking on nonslip ice. Would it have killed the previous owners to put a couple hoses down under it when they were laying it? Ah well.


Theodosia - May 12, 2007 1:13:42 pm PDT #6968 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Oh, and bulging Buffista groupmind, what's the opposite side of the spine in a book? The flat edge with all the page ends?