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Hil R. - May 12, 2007 12:59:36 pm PDT #6964 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Margarine isn't usually vegan? That's bananas! I mean, I get that it wasn't developed to be a vegan product, but still. Food science is weird.

I'm going to be using Smart Balance, since it seemed the healthiest of the options. For more normal margarines, the grocery store had Fleishman's and one other national brand, both with whey. (I was surprised that the Fleishman's was dairy -- they're a kosher brand, and most of the kosher brands make non-dairy margarine.)


Hil R. - May 12, 2007 1:04:16 pm PDT #6965 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I just checked my freezer. I've got 3/4 of a pound of non-dairy margarine there (a kosher brand, Mother's), but it's been there for at least a few years, so I'm thinking it's probably not something I want to put on the cupcakes. Plus, it's got partially hydrogenated oils, which I'm trying to avoid.


Liese S. - May 12, 2007 1:10:07 pm PDT #6966 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Thanks, Typo.

How do you break down your classifications of normal house, normal solar house & almost-entirely passive solar house? We're hoping to do a good deal of passive solar. We're aligned just off of true solar south (couldn't quite, because of narrow setbacks), lots of south side windows w/ overhangs, including a sunroom w/ s & e windows, and small high west-facing windows for ventilation. Stained concrete slab for thermal mass.

Then we hope to use the woodstove for secondary heat. So the radiant floors (if we end up going that way) will be tertiary. I read that the they actually don't pair up well with passive solar, because of the heating cycle...that passive solar heats the slab during the day, then cools off, radiant tubing heats the slab at night, but then it's still hot in the morning when the solar hits the slab again, so some is wasted. I think I could manage this with a timed zoned thermostat, and I would just have to deal with the wait time for the radiant to heat in the event that the day is cloudy. We don't have many cloudy days, and we generally know when we're going to get them. Do you have an opinion on that kind of efficacy? Is efficacy a word?

Whoo. Didn't mean to go into that much detail.

But anyway, I probably will need to do two tankless heaters anyway, because the future expansion bathroom is far away enough to need it. But if I can get away with one for the initial build, it would be nice. eta: And if I can use them at all sufficiently instead of a tank heater, I'll be happy with that.


Theodosia - May 12, 2007 1:11:49 pm PDT #6967 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Mmmmm lemon cupcakes.

It's as though margarine manufacturers think they have to include what's clearly a token amount of cow products, even down to the 2% or less category.

I dream daily of radiant heating in the wintertime. My house has a beautiful ceramic tile floor in the kitchen, which is like walking on nonslip ice. Would it have killed the previous owners to put a couple hoses down under it when they were laying it? Ah well.


Theodosia - May 12, 2007 1:13:42 pm PDT #6968 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Oh, and bulging Buffista groupmind, what's the opposite side of the spine in a book? The flat edge with all the page ends?


Jesse - May 12, 2007 1:13:45 pm PDT #6969 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

This is so random, but the board update thing reminded me. A couple of weeks ago, there was a question on some old (80s?) game show I was watching, about what percentage of people in the US live in the Eastern time zone, and it was half, which suprised me. And I was wondering if that's still true. Apparently, it is (more or less): [link] Huh.


sarameg - May 12, 2007 1:19:28 pm PDT #6970 of 10001

My only experiences with tankless heaters were poor. HOWEVER, it was Puerto Rico and Prague and the equiptment was marginal to start with.

I'm finishing up my third load of laundry, have erranded and grocery shopped and drove through the boonies in the process. I love that I can go from city to farmland and woods in minutes. I would clean, but it is 80 and just no way. Tomorrow will be cool, so it can happen then.

I think a cool shower is in my future. I'm kinda slimy.


beth b - May 12, 2007 1:23:56 pm PDT #6971 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I have a friend that grew up with a tankless water heater - they have improved dramatically.


§ ita § - May 12, 2007 1:30:29 pm PDT #6972 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have no idea, Theo.

Which reminds me--no one has any experience with the Vornado air filters?


bon bon - May 12, 2007 1:37:44 pm PDT #6973 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

That's amazing about the time zones-- during DST, there are more people in Florida than in the mountain time zone!