Mal: Well, you were right about this being a bad idea. Zoe: Thanks for sayin', sir.

'Serenity'


Natter Area 51: The Truthiness Is in Here  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Stephanie - Apr 26, 2007 8:12:06 am PDT #4518 of 10001
Trust my rage

Like, you know when a toddler has a meltdown on public transit, and half the traincar is disgusted with the parent? What they really should be thinking is, "This is the price we pay for the species not dying out. What do I have in my pockets -- a snack? a paper clip? Some colorful paper? -- that can help that poor parent out?"

Or on a plane...I live in fear of sitting next to the asshole who is going to spend the flight giving me the look...mostly out of fear that i might verbally assault him/her if pushed too far.

The image of Stewart!Cheney makes me laugh. (Stewart!Cheney makes me think of Stewart/Cheney which is scary indeed. Eww..brain bleach!!!)


lisah - Apr 26, 2007 8:15:03 am PDT #4519 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

I don't know what to make of the Baldwin thing (although if he was someone I didn't like I imagine my view would be much more clear cut). I think Cindy has it right though. We can't really judge from that one message whether he's a shitty parent or was having a shitty parenting time right then. And I agree with everybody saying the worst villain is the person who let it go public. That poor girl.

On a much lighter note...remember when the World's Tallest Man saved those dolphins in China? My band wrote a song about it. I'm sorry I can't share the song at the moment (for, I can safely say, it does ROCK) but I do have some pictures from our first performance of it:

[link]


Scrappy - Apr 26, 2007 8:28:24 am PDT #4520 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Cool, Lisah! In other music-related news, this video [link] is making the rounds of the office today and it is mighty enjoyable.


Kat - Apr 26, 2007 8:38:33 am PDT #4521 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

From the link that bon bon posted, I had forgotten that he said he would leave the country if Bush won the election. It's a little odd that he is saying the same thing now.


Steph L. - Apr 26, 2007 8:49:08 am PDT #4522 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

It never ceases to boggle me the perfectness (and ideological) standards to which popular culture holds parents.

Expecting parents to not insult and otherwise hurt their children is not holding parents to a standard of perfection.

It never ceases to boggle me that people would undoubtedly call the authorities on Alec Baldwin if he hit his child -- even if it were an isolated incident (it was just the one time, baby, and you made me do it, you just make me so *mad* sometimes) -- but they're okay making excuses for him when he verbally damages his child.

Seriously, a rant like that is never an isolated incident. It's too long and vitriolic.

Seriously -- that's not always true, even if though was true in your experience. Do I think it's likely in this Baldwin thing? Actually, I do

I really really hope for his daughter's sake that you're right.


askye - Apr 26, 2007 8:50:04 am PDT #4523 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

Joe Francis's life just keeps getting worse.

[link]

He's been sentenced to 35 days for the contempt charges. Yesterday he was charged with sexual battery and will be arraigned May 22 and could face 6 months in jail and a $2000 fine. But, wait! there's more! He has to be in Nevada on May 22 because he's been indicted on federal charges of tax evasion and could face 10 years in prison and $500,000 fine.


Ailleann - Apr 26, 2007 8:54:00 am PDT #4524 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

::chairdances::

Slimeball.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 26, 2007 8:55:52 am PDT #4525 of 10001
What is even happening?

Seriously -- that's not always true, even if though was true in your experience. Do I think it's likely in this Baldwin thing? Actually, I do

I really really hope for his daughter's sake that you're right.

Sorry, I wasn't clear, Teppy. If I had to guess, I'd think that you were right, and that this may be part of Baldwin's parenting style and not an isolated incident.

I was then pointing out that I just can't know what this was, because I don't know them. That said, I don't know many good parents who haven't sucked out loud at some (isolated) points in their kids lives.


Nutty - Apr 26, 2007 8:58:48 am PDT #4526 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

It never ceases to boggle me the perfectness (and ideological) standards to which popular culture holds parents.

Expecting parents to not insult and otherwise hurt their children is not holding parents to a standard of perfection.

No, indeed, and that's not a an assertion I have made. I was responding to the general track of Cindy's notions about parenting, and have remained blissfully ignorant of the influence of Baldwins on all aspects of life. It's best not to take a tangential comment in the general flow of conversation as intended to reflect directly on your own experience, because misinterpretation is bound to occur. I think if you were not in such high dudgeon, you would not have accused me of "making excuses" for somebody I don't know from a hole in the wall.

In other news, it looks like Joe Francis is having some zillion-dollar chickens come home to roost. Power to the chickens!


flea - Apr 26, 2007 9:03:21 am PDT #4527 of 10001
information libertarian

I've seen plenty of children hit by their parents in public, with nobody calling the cops. I've also seen plenty of children yelled at by their parents in public, with nobody calling the cops. Disapproving frowns, yes, but if Baldwin butt-smacked or roughly grabbed his daughter and got arrested, the only reason would be because of his fame.

What's interesting to me is that Baldwin's rant is about how abused HE feels by the situation in the family. My understanding is that the divorce (still ongoing?) has been incredibly messy; he's probably as responsible for that as anyone, but still sees himself as a victim. Perhaps his daughter is deliberately manipulating him - certainly possible, even for an 11 year old NOT raised by immature and volatile adults. But even if she is yanking his chain, it's his job to be the parent, realize that she's yanking, and deal with it. He failed this time, and the way he's failing makes it likely that it's a problem for him in general.