Illyria: Wesley's dead. I'm feeling grief for him. I can't seem to control it. I wish to do more violence. Spike: Well, wishes just happen to be horses today.

'Not Fade Away'


Natter Area 51: The Truthiness Is in Here  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Apr 16, 2007 10:20:24 am PDT #2816 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

So they're no longer saying it was two separate shootings? with two separate gunmen?


Steph L. - Apr 16, 2007 10:22:30 am PDT #2817 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

So they're no longer saying it was two separate shootings? with two separate gunmen?

They think it was just the one gunman. Two locations for the shooting: the dorm, where 1 person was killed, and the engineering building.


bon bon - Apr 16, 2007 10:23:52 am PDT #2818 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

"But I'm pretty outraged and I'll say on the record I'm pretty outraged that someone died in a shooting in a dorm at 7 o'clock in the morning and the first e-mail about it — no mention of locking down campus, no mention of canceling classes — they just mention that they're investigating a shooting two hours later at 9:22."

He added: "That's pretty ridiculous and meanwhile, while they're sending out that e-mail, 22 more people got killed."

If this is true it's inexcusable.


brenda m - Apr 16, 2007 10:24:01 am PDT #2819 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Yeah, sounds like. 31 people, jesus.


flea - Apr 16, 2007 10:24:35 am PDT #2820 of 10001
information libertarian

And I guess he went to Krispy Kreme for breakfast or something between the killings.


Steph L. - Apr 16, 2007 10:27:11 am PDT #2821 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

If this is true it's inexcusable.

If it's true, Va. Tech. is going to be up to its eyeballs in lawsuits.


Cashmere - Apr 16, 2007 10:31:40 am PDT #2822 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

According to a student on Time.com, they were locked down in their dorm at 8 a.m. The lockdown was lifted for some reason and then the guy struck a second time.


flea - Apr 16, 2007 10:31:51 am PDT #2823 of 10001
information libertarian

I think a 2+ hour delay of email notification is inexcusable, but I also think it's totally plausible at a college campus. I could see that happening here: bureaucracy, bad communication, early morning, people authorized to make decisions between their home and office...

I have been thinking for a couple of hours that it would be really hard to notify everybody and lock down the campus if something like that happened here at 7am. I mean, a lot of people would be asleep until 10 minutes before a 9:30 class.


Steph L. - Apr 16, 2007 10:33:17 am PDT #2824 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

The Roanoke Times has some eyewitness reports: [link]


lisah - Apr 16, 2007 10:33:29 am PDT #2825 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

god that's horrifying