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flea - Apr 16, 2007 10:24:35 am PDT #2820 of 10001
information libertarian

And I guess he went to Krispy Kreme for breakfast or something between the killings.


Steph L. - Apr 16, 2007 10:27:11 am PDT #2821 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

If this is true it's inexcusable.

If it's true, Va. Tech. is going to be up to its eyeballs in lawsuits.


Cashmere - Apr 16, 2007 10:31:40 am PDT #2822 of 10001
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According to a student on Time.com, they were locked down in their dorm at 8 a.m. The lockdown was lifted for some reason and then the guy struck a second time.


flea - Apr 16, 2007 10:31:51 am PDT #2823 of 10001
information libertarian

I think a 2+ hour delay of email notification is inexcusable, but I also think it's totally plausible at a college campus. I could see that happening here: bureaucracy, bad communication, early morning, people authorized to make decisions between their home and office...

I have been thinking for a couple of hours that it would be really hard to notify everybody and lock down the campus if something like that happened here at 7am. I mean, a lot of people would be asleep until 10 minutes before a 9:30 class.


Steph L. - Apr 16, 2007 10:33:17 am PDT #2824 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

The Roanoke Times has some eyewitness reports: [link]


lisah - Apr 16, 2007 10:33:29 am PDT #2825 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

god that's horrifying


bon bon - Apr 16, 2007 10:34:18 am PDT #2826 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

If it's true, Va. Tech. is going to be up to its eyeballs in lawsuits.

Trying not to sound callous, but indeed, the potential liability is staggering. If this happened at a company, it would probably fold.


Steph L. - Apr 16, 2007 10:36:54 am PDT #2827 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

If it's true, Va. Tech. is going to be up to its eyeballs in lawsuits.

Trying not to sound callous, but indeed, the potential liability is staggering.

Yeah, I didn't mean to be callous -- I was just thinking, what if I had a kid there, what if I had a kid there who was killed? That 2-hour window makes it seem like the second shootings could have been avoided.


Hil R. - Apr 16, 2007 10:37:32 am PDT #2828 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I think a 2+ hour delay of email notification is inexcusable, but I also think it's totally plausible at a college campus.

Yeah. When I was in college, the amount of time between the "official" time that the school decided "there's a hurricane coming, classes are canceled, everyone get out" and the time that anyone outside the administration got the message was sometimes more than three hours.


Cashmere - Apr 16, 2007 10:37:58 am PDT #2829 of 10001
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I'm trying to take into account this is a college campus. It's too early to speculate on how things were done or not done.

It looks like they were aware of the first shooting and investigating when the second shooting occurred. There have also been a rash of bomb threats on campus this week so that may have contributed to the lack of timely action.

I can't imagine the logistics of locking down a 25,000 student campus.