Thank you all for making my decision to drop DC in toto a relatively painless one. Sounds as if I jumped ship just in time.
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Matt the Bruins fan - May 24, 2006 1:42:55 pm PDT #9614 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
§ ita § - May 24, 2006 2:12:03 pm PDT #9615 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Nightwing's been startlingly bad.
52, on the other hand, is much more fun than I was expecting.
Steph L. - May 24, 2006 2:49:11 pm PDT #9616 of 10000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated
There's a theory floating around the Interbunny that Nightwing (the title) is so kerfucked because after Infinite Crisis, the multiverse isn't exactly back, but it isn't exactly gone -- characters remember pre-COIE history, etc. And on 52thecomic.com, there's the Ask Prof. Expert "column" about a dude who now has 2 versions of his wife -- each from a different Earth version.
Anyway, the Nightwing theory is that there's more than one Dick Grayson running around the current DC-verse (New Earth?). So maybe the Dick Grayson in the Nightwing title isn't the same Dick Grayson that we, the reader, know from pre-OYL.
But what I want to know is, even if that's true, what version of Earth has a Zoolander version of Dick Grayson?!?
§ ita § - May 24, 2006 2:51:57 pm PDT #9617 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Also, which Dick is with the Outsiders? But that's not an OYL thing.
P.M. Marc - May 24, 2006 4:09:47 pm PDT #9618 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
But what I want to know is, even if that's true, what version of Earth has a Zoolander version of Dick Grayson?!?
And where is our Hansel!Roy?
Frankenbuddha - May 25, 2006 3:50:11 am PDT #9619 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
So is Dick's signature move "Bat Steel"?
Miracleman - May 25, 2006 6:37:28 am PDT #9620 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020
Okay, so I haven't read DC comics in a while...and I'm torn between glad I haven't and...just being totally fucking confused.
So, okay, wait...(edited for possible spoilerynessosity) the Justice League went all Thought Police and mind-wiped some people (including Batman) and covered it up? Okay.
Blue Beetle is dead? Because Maxwell Lord, of all people, killed him when BB discovered Lord's plots to kill all superhumans?
I'm sorry...the friggin' ROCK OF ETERNITY has been destroyed and the wizard Shazam IS DEAD? WHAT ABOUT CAPTAIN MARVEL?!?!?!?
Wonder Woman killed Maxwell Lord?!
Donna Troy is back?! Why?
Rann and Thanagar are at war?
MULTIPLE EARTHS AGAIN?!?!?!?!?!
Okay, so...Nightwing is a model. Is Batman, perhaps, a dental hygienist now? Is Green Arrow moonlighting as an off-brand Chippendale dancer type or something? Has Clark given up the Daily Planet in favor of hawking a self-published book of crapalicious "poetry" on street corners in Haight-Ashbury?
Are the Earth-2 Supes and Earth Prime Superboy still around?
I feel so lost and confuzzled. My head, it spins; the world, she is upside down and turvy-topsy.
I was thinking..."Maybe I'll go back and get some comics and see what's happening with my favoritest heroes." Now I'm thinking "Stick to the booze, you fool! The booze! No, don't think about Superman! Booze!"
...ow.
Polter-Cow - May 25, 2006 6:44:47 am PDT #9621 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
The real question is whether Superman is wearing stripey tights.
Steph L. - May 25, 2006 6:44:52 am PDT #9622 of 10000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated
MM, (not white-fonted b/c it's been a month or so), Green Arrow is now MAYOR of Star City. No, really. Fuck-the-establishment Ollie Queen is MAYOR of his town.
Earth-2 Supes, as far as we can tell, actually died at the end of Infinite Crisis (as did E-2 Lois).
Superboy Prime is in some sort of Kryptonite prison being guarded by the Lantern Corps. I think.
Miracleman - May 25, 2006 7:48:46 am PDT #9623 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020
Oh, now it all makes sense.
t head explodes