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P.M. Marc - May 24, 2006 12:21:01 pm PDT #9607 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Is Nightwing out to kill the Statue of Liberty or something? I don't understand those covers.

Dick's in New York working as a model, where he is being Single White Femaled by Jason, who has a shiny, curvy knife and likes to use it on bad guys.

Also, Dick can't turn left, and just lost the VH-1 model award to Jason.

I'll be very sad if this arc doesn't wind up with them opening a Center For SuperKids Who Want To Learn To Read Good and Do Other Stuff Good Too.

PS, the second part of my summary is a lie, but it's really what should have happened.


Polter-Cow - May 24, 2006 12:29:04 pm PDT #9608 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Dick's in New York working as a model, where he is being Single White Femaled by Jason, who has a shiny, curvy knife and likes to use it on bad guys.

This is the Jason who magically came back from the dead, right?

I kind of get the SWF idea with the whole Robin thing, but...a model?


P.M. Marc - May 24, 2006 12:42:54 pm PDT #9609 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

This is the Jason who magically came back from the dead, right?

Yep. Superboy Prime punched him back to life.

I kind of get the SWF idea with the whole Robin thing, but...a model?

Well, he *is* really, really ridiculously good-looking.


Steph L. - May 24, 2006 12:45:31 pm PDT #9610 of 10000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Well, he *is* really, really ridiculously good-looking.

Not the way he's being drawn right now, he's not....


Polter-Cow - May 24, 2006 12:47:48 pm PDT #9611 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Superboy Prime punched him back to life.

Uh. What?


P.M. Marc - May 24, 2006 12:48:40 pm PDT #9612 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Uh. What?

Didn't you read the ICSF&O?

Not the way he's being drawn right now, he's not....

Okay. True.


Polter-Cow - May 24, 2006 12:56:58 pm PDT #9613 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Didn't you read the ICSF&O?

The Infinite Crisis of San Francisco and Oakland ? No, I haven't read anything new in close to a year now.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 24, 2006 1:42:55 pm PDT #9614 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Thank you all for making my decision to drop DC in toto a relatively painless one. Sounds as if I jumped ship just in time.


§ ita § - May 24, 2006 2:12:03 pm PDT #9615 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Nightwing's been startlingly bad.

52, on the other hand, is much more fun than I was expecting.


Steph L. - May 24, 2006 2:49:11 pm PDT #9616 of 10000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

There's a theory floating around the Interbunny that Nightwing (the title) is so kerfucked because after Infinite Crisis, the multiverse isn't exactly back, but it isn't exactly gone -- characters remember pre-COIE history, etc. And on 52thecomic.com, there's the Ask Prof. Expert "column" about a dude who now has 2 versions of his wife -- each from a different Earth version.

Anyway, the Nightwing theory is that there's more than one Dick Grayson running around the current DC-verse (New Earth?). So maybe the Dick Grayson in the Nightwing title isn't the same Dick Grayson that we, the reader, know from pre-OYL.

But what I want to know is, even if that's true, what version of Earth has a Zoolander version of Dick Grayson?!?