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Steph L. - May 24, 2006 6:05:23 am PDT #9597 of 10000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

I'm really not liking OYL. Nightwing both sucks and blows in ways I didn't think possible, and I say that in a world in which Bill Willingham is allowed to write comics. (People on the DC message boards keep saying "At least it's not Devin Grayson," and I just don't get the hate. No matter what you think of Devin Grayson, I have just two words for you about Nightwing OYL: male. model.)

Robin #150 made me just about have an embolism. I can't begin to list how many things are wrong with that issue.

Green Arrow feels like No Man's Land, Redux. It's not bad, but it's kind of weird, and I'm just not feeling it.

BoP is decent, and I have big love for Zinda.

Teen Titans is....odd, but I'm willing to stick with it, because I love how Johns writes the characters.

DC editorial keeps saying, just stick with it, and all will be explained -- the kerfuckery has a reason. But I'm of the opinion that if you have to tell your audience to stick with the crap b/c there'll be a payoff at the end, that's crap writing/plotting/worldbuilding. A story should stand on its own, without the creator having to break the fourth wall (in essence) to tell the readers that they should keep reading.

Even if OYL is confusing, it should still draw the readers in and stand on its own merit.


§ ita § - May 24, 2006 6:55:42 am PDT #9598 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Dislike: Nightwing, and the Robin developments (though that might resolve itself fine).

Like: Teen Titans, 52

Confused by: Outsiders


P.M. Marc - May 24, 2006 7:46:26 am PDT #9599 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Loving: Teen Titans, Manhunter (sob! I'll miss it so!), Blue Beetle, BoP, The Superman Titles, Checkmate, 52.

Not hating: Outsiders, Firestorm, Catwoman, various Batbooks (though I'm more meh than expected on JR's arc, as I generally love his writing), Supergirl (see above re: predictable and just add Rucka).

On the fence until I see where they're going: Robin. Hawkgirl.

Actively eyerolling: ZoolanderNightwing. But in the, Oh-Em-Gee, could this BE any more crapcrack? amused sort of way. Oh, and Ion. Which I'm reading as Blogfodder. (Speaking of... Watch This Space For URL, which won't go up until I Have Content. Because what the world really needed was another comics blogger, right?)


§ ita § - May 24, 2006 7:49:17 am PDT #9600 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, yes--I'm liking Blue Beetle and am curiously enjoying (as in curious about what's coming next, not curious about enjoying it) BoP. Firestorm's cool. As far as Catwoman's concerned, I'm not buying it or anything. I just want to know who the babyfather is.


Steph L. - May 24, 2006 7:57:54 am PDT #9601 of 10000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

I'm intrigued by 52, especially last week's -- was I misinterpreting, or did Wonder Girl start a cult worshipping Superboy??? If I read that correctly, that's even weirder than Robin trying to re-clone Kon. (Because that fits Tim's character, perfectly. Obsessive little Kon-loving freakboy.)


P.M. Marc - May 24, 2006 8:20:16 am PDT #9602 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Catwoman gets points for showing a realistic post-baby body AND breastfeeding, even if the whole baby thing raises red flags for me.


Steph L. - May 24, 2006 10:41:32 am PDT #9603 of 10000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Actively eyerolling: ZoolanderNightwing.

Plei, have you seen this at Newsarama.com: "What I Think of Nightwing: An Editorial"?


P.M. Marc - May 24, 2006 11:28:23 am PDT #9604 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

BWAH!

Oh, ouch.


Polter-Cow - May 24, 2006 11:48:08 am PDT #9605 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Is Nightwing out to kill the Statue of Liberty or something? I don't understand those covers.


Steph L. - May 24, 2006 11:52:01 am PDT #9606 of 10000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

I don't understand those covers.

The covers are more comprehensible than the plot. Or characterization.