I kissed him, and I told him that I loved him. And I killed him.

Buffy ,'Same Time, Same Place'


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Mr. Broom - May 08, 2006 1:51:34 pm PDT #9531 of 10000
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

Ha! The chick who dumped Dream and forced him into Brief Lives was THESSALY?!

It's brought up in The Kindly Ones, though indirectly:

"Someone... once told me that we would see each other again."
"Someone was right...."I... I did not intend to hurt you."
"And what if you did not? Intent and outcome are so rarely incident."

It's one of my favorite quotes from that arc.

And oh! Aw! Destruction showed up!! I mean, he didn't show up, show up, but he stopped by. I like Destruction for some reason, even though we don't see much of him.

Me too. I've always loved the above-it characters, the ones who have stepped out of the game and aren't subject to it anymore, like Shakespeare's fools.

I don't understand why Gaiman wrote two extra issues after it, though. "Exiles" was better than "Soft Places," and I must say, it was nice to see the old Dream again for a bit, but "The Wake" closed things out so nicely it didn't feel necessary.

I think he wanted to show the going-on-ness of things with the extra issues. Yes, we get that the new Dream is going to carry on, but it's good that he tied these present developments in with the past and the future. Also he wasn't done with the Shakespeare thread yet; it was stated way-back that Dream commissioned two plays, so it was clear Gaiman intended to come back to it.

And I do wonder whether the Guy Fawkes thing was a V for Vendetta shout-out.

Pretty sure that was more of a history shout-out, for texture.

I have now read Sandman. I feel enriched and cool.

You should've felt that a long time ago, chief.


DXMachina - May 08, 2006 4:21:17 pm PDT #9532 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

(Not to mention this will no doubt result in Legion of Super Heroes reboot v6.0 or v7.0... I forget what number we're on by now...)

Actually, that would be a blessing at this point. The current incarnation of the LSH is awful.


Steph L. - May 09, 2006 8:10:09 am PDT #9533 of 10000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Similar to what ABC is doing with Lost and the "Hanso Foundation" Web site, DC brings us www.52thecomic.com.

V. amusing.


§ ita § - May 09, 2006 2:23:40 pm PDT #9534 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I neither love not hate Gambit, but I'm hella amused by this tirade. I mean, it contains this tangent:

Incidentally, The Richard Gere Factor is the polar opposite of The Kurt Russell Factor. Guys love Kurt Russell; it's why they keep putting him in movies.

Man #1: "Dude, we should catch that movie Dreamer, the one about the little girl and the horse that taught a family to love again."
Man #2: "Fuck no we shouldn't."
Man #1: "It's got Kurt Russell and Kris Kristoferson."
Man #2: "Let us do this thing!!!"


DXMachina - May 09, 2006 2:25:23 pm PDT #9535 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Kris Kristoferson? I don't think so...


Tom Scola - May 09, 2006 2:39:16 pm PDT #9536 of 10000
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

TV Comic strips from the late 60s and early 70s.

John Pertwee as a cross-dressing Doctor Who really disturbed me.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 09, 2006 3:09:39 pm PDT #9537 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Kris Kristoferson? I don't think so...

He's about 75% of what got me to watch Blade II...

John Pertwee as a cross-dressing Doctor Who really disturbed me.

I'd never really thought about the actor's resemblance to Bea Arthur until I saw tthis comic strip.


Mr. Broom - May 09, 2006 3:23:33 pm PDT #9538 of 10000
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

Kris Kristofferson has got what we call the Haggard Factor. You cannot kill him. You can only make him more haggard.

I was likewise amused by the Gambit tirade, particularly because he is the all-time favorite X-Man of one of my best friends. I never thought that any part of Gambit was particularly uncool or chick-flicky, really. In fact, the first few story arcs of his solo series were pretty slick. I will admit, however, that his power is one of those mutations that are ridiculously deus ex. The con man has a power that happens to relate perfectly to the use of playing cards? You don't say! He's by no means the worst offender in that category, though (Banshee kind of does suck).


Matt the Bruins fan - May 09, 2006 5:08:58 pm PDT #9539 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Well, to be fair Gambit can charge up pretty much any small object to explode... he just chooses to fling cards as part of his schtick.

I do remember when Whistler made it into the crawlspaces toward the end of Blade II, I thought to myself "Did none of the vampires ever watch a Die Hard movie? Forget Blade, now they're REALLY screwed!"


Kalshane - May 10, 2006 6:00:28 am PDT #9540 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Well, to be fair Gambit can charge up pretty much any small object to explode... he just chooses to fling cards as part of his schtick

Exactly. He can and does charge up various objects. Cards are just light-weight and easy to carry. I mean, sure they were chosen for the "coolness factor", but they make a good deal of logical sense. How many other things can you carry 52 of in a pocket and still throw a decent distance.