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Mr. Broom - May 04, 2006 3:47:07 am PDT #9448 of 10000
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

Because it was so fucking perfect that when Destruction quits, he embraces creation, in the form of art. Painting, poetry, cooking, etc.

And through Barnabas, we know that he's not very good at it, which makes sense.

Random questions: what the hell is up with Dream's helm? Why does it look so weird? It makes him look like an alien. Why did Delight turn into Delirium? Why did Despair become Desire's twin? What Endless was destroyed? Who are Mary Canby and Chloe Russell?

As is said in the first book, his helm was forged from the bones of a dead god. Apparently this one had a funky shaped skull. Delight became Delirium because of some huge but unnamed change in the world, or in mortals at any rate (after all, they exist because of us). Despair just is Desire's twin. If you think about it, they each depend upon the another to some degree (the concepts as well as the persons). You find out which Endless was destroyed later, so I won't say. Far as I know, Canby and Russel are just people. Some of his characters are just that.


Tom Scola - May 04, 2006 4:28:22 am PDT #9449 of 10000
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

This is a job for Super!Teppy!


Frankenbuddha - May 04, 2006 4:31:50 am PDT #9450 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

This is a job for Super!Teppy!

Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!


Strega - May 04, 2006 4:50:08 am PDT #9451 of 10000

The Sandman, ultimately, is about family.
Do you mean Brief Lives, or the entire series? Because it's a little bit dangerous to decide what it's all ultimately about when you've got a third of the series left.


Steph L. - May 04, 2006 5:10:24 am PDT #9452 of 10000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

This is a job for Super!Teppy!

Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!

Quickly! To the Spellcheckmobile!


Frankenbuddha - May 04, 2006 5:15:29 am PDT #9453 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

It's The Adventures of Super!Teppy and Copy Boy!!!!


sj - May 04, 2006 5:21:20 am PDT #9454 of 10000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

It's The Adventures of Super!Teppy and Copy Boy!!!!

Saving the world from bad grammar!


Sean K - May 04, 2006 5:35:41 am PDT #9455 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I saw it more of a reaction to what he talks about at the end, the fact that the Endless are really just anthropomorphs cooked up by humanity, and a focus on reason threatens their relevance. It's as if he quit so that he wouldn't be fired.

Also, I would say there's a large degree of Destruction having his job taken over by the scientific advances in warfare. Think of Oppenheimer's chosen quote after the first detonation -- "I am become Death, devourer of worlds."

Okay, so the quote mentions the wrong Endless, but the point remains. It's not just that Destruction would have been fired, humanity as a whole was (*is*) trying to become Destruction.

Why did Delight turn into Delirium?

Delight became Delirium because of some huge but unnamed change in the world, or in mortals at any rate

You don't see it? Consumerism. Among other things. We humans (as represented by the "advanced" Western-world-living among us, anyway) stopped taking joy and delight in that which was joyful and delightful in the world, and instead started chasing pleasure for its own sake, demanding more and more, and ever more again.

When that happened (or as it happened, it's not like it was a discrete event), we went insane and entered a delirium from which we never returned, and propably never will.


Dana - May 04, 2006 5:54:51 am PDT #9456 of 10000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Given how long ago Delight became Delirium, I'm not sure I buy that consumerism was the cause.


Sean K - May 04, 2006 6:00:02 am PDT #9457 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Given how long ago Delight became Delirium, I'm not sure I buy that consumerism was the cause.

Your memory is working better than mine. How long ago did it happen?

And even though I singled out consumerism, I do think it was really more a whole series of events that mutated us and her, and consumerism is just bound up in all that, but you may wind up deflating my theory right here.