Xander: Look who's got a bad case of Dark Prince envy. Dracula: Leave us. Xander: No, we're not going to "Leabbb you." And where'd you get that accent, Sesame Street? "One, Two, Three - three victims! Maw ha ha!"

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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Theodosia - Sep 23, 2005 5:26:11 am PDT #8789 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Hmm, one of my favoritest ever pages was during Claremont and Byrne's early run of X-Men, where Wolverine has been left for dead in the sewers by the Hellfire Club's face-masked minions, and he's looking up at daylight, so that the light of the grate is on his face, and with his claws bared is vowing revenge.

And then you had to wait an entire month to find out what happened next... which led, in fact, directly into the Dark Phoenix storyline, so things went even more to hell than you expected.

I may have been young and innocent in those days ("the golden age of anything is when you're fourteen") but damn that was a good comic book series. SIGH


§ ita § - Sep 23, 2005 6:25:17 am PDT #8790 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There's a Wolverine/Power Pack issue of the X-Men, and I'm blanking on the artist, but there were lots of wires, and not much speaking (I think Logan goes feral, and Katie Power helps him snap out of it) and I remember each page being a joy.

Same goes for many of the pages of Ronin, but my memory can't narrow it down much more.


Gandalfe - Sep 23, 2005 6:55:53 am PDT #8791 of 10000
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Claremont couldn't write dialogue for shit. Or maybe that was just dialogue in general was shit in those day. I just barely re-read the Dark Phoenix saga, and it was painful. What HAPPENED was awesome, but the talking was horrible.

Ronin was fantastic. Had to rebuy it recently. Now, I seem to remember that Camelot 3000 was really good, too. Am I confused about that? Can't seem to find it anywhere.


§ ita § - Sep 23, 2005 6:57:59 am PDT #8792 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I seem to remember that Camelot 3000 was really good, too. Am I confused about that? Can't seem to find it anywhere.

I need to reread it! I remember liking it, but i was kinda easily pleased back then. And delighted by the Tristan/Iseult thing too.

I have the set -- in storage in New Orleans.

Mmmm. 4-colour soup.


Kalshane - Sep 23, 2005 7:33:08 am PDT #8793 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Claremont couldn't write dialogue for shit. Or maybe that was just dialogue in general was shit in those day. I just barely re-read the Dark Phoenix saga, and it was painful. What HAPPENED was awesome, but the talking was horrible.

I'm with you there. I was actually reading through all the old X-Mens for the first time last year and I was thinking "This dialogue is awful. I can't believe this was considered the pinnacle of the line." I agree, cool storylines, though.


Sean K - Sep 23, 2005 7:02:38 pm PDT #8794 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Claremont couldn't write dialogue for shit.

"I'm the best there is at what I do, and what I do is repeat myself...."


Kalshane - Sep 23, 2005 7:03:40 pm PDT #8795 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

"I'm the best there is at what I do, and what I do is repeat myself...."

That pretty much nails it, Sean.


Sean K - Sep 23, 2005 7:08:37 pm PDT #8796 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

That line, so iconic of Wolverine back in the day, was also the one most easy and commonly made fun of.


Sean K - Sep 23, 2005 7:09:20 pm PDT #8797 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Serial:

Hell, even Claremont made fun of it in Excaliber at one point.


DavidS - Sep 24, 2005 7:25:53 am PDT #8798 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The thing about that Wolverine line is that I can't really imagine a badass thinking like that. Reminds me of the an old criticism of Alan Ladd's screen persona: "A 10 year old's idea of a tough guy."