I seem to remember that Camelot 3000 was really good, too. Am I confused about that? Can't seem to find it anywhere.

I need to reread it! I remember liking it, but i was kinda easily pleased back then. And delighted by the Tristan/Iseult thing too.

I have the set -- in storage in New Orleans.

Mmmm. 4-colour soup.

Claremont couldn't write dialogue for shit. Or maybe that was just dialogue in general was shit in those day. I just barely re-read the Dark Phoenix saga, and it was painful. What HAPPENED was awesome, but the talking was horrible.

I'm with you there. I was actually reading through all the old X-Mens for the first time last year and I was thinking "This dialogue is awful. I can't believe this was considered the pinnacle of the line." I agree, cool storylines, though.

Claremont couldn't write dialogue for shit.

"I'm the best there is at what I do, and what I do is repeat myself...."

"I'm the best there is at what I do, and what I do is repeat myself...."

That pretty much nails it, Sean.

That line, so iconic of Wolverine back in the day, was also the one most easy and commonly made fun of.

Serial:

Hell, even Claremont made fun of it in Excaliber at one point.

The thing about that Wolverine line is that I can't really imagine a badass thinking like that. Reminds me of the an old criticism of Alan Ladd's screen persona: "A 10 year old's idea of a tough guy."

The gulf between it in the first person and it being observed in the third is huge. Still cheesy, but not quite so "Aren't I the baddest assed?"

I'm catching up on three weeks of comics, and I'm wholly confused. What is up with Nightwing/Outsiders/BOP? I can't make the timelines work precisely, although I do think I have Batgirl properly aligned with BOP, so that's something.

I'm pretty confused by Nightwing in both his comic and the Outsiders -- and I notice Nightwing doesn't have a little batman logo on the cover, yet the entire issue seems to be about him and his effects.

And then in Marvel land, I'm pretty confused about how House of M isn't affecting all the titles. Isn't it supposed to repercuss through them all once it's done? Also, what in god's name have they done with Storm? She's freakish and strange in the Wild Kingdom.

ita, I have given up on the Where Is Nightwing timeline.

In the most recent Outsiders, he got nekkid with Starfire, but then in BoP, he seemed pretty friendly with Babs, and all I kept thinking was "Is this pre- or post-nailing Starfire, you ho?"

Not to mention in BoP, Huntress was there at the same party as Dick, and -- hadn't they just recently met up in their sketchy undercover-with-the-mob plan? I would have expected some sort of acknowledgement of that at the party.

And then in Return of Donna Troy, there's some OTHER whole timeline where the Outsiders (including Nightwing) and the Titans are on some other planet somewhere, fetching Donna. I have NO idea when that was supposed to have happened/will happen.

But I feel the same way about the Batman titles and OMAC, also. Batman is everywhere, man. Though his ubiquity isn't as mind-bending as Nightwing's is, because he really IS everywhere, and seemingly at the same time.

If the upcoming Crisis can just establish a reasonably coherent timeline, then I don't care WHAT it entails.