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Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 24, 2004 8:10:06 am PST #7057 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Green Lantern:Rebirth was interesting to me, and I appreciate that they're trying to give an explanation for the whole Parallax mess involving another party influencing Hal. But I have several plot reservations:

1) Johns doesn't seem to be tying this in to the Mocker, who was another smug yellow-tinged non-corporeal adversary imprisoned in the main power battery that took it over and turned it against the Corps at one point. Hello? Ready-made in-continuity backstory there for the taking...

2) The main power battery was also used as a prison for Sinestro and Dr. Light at one point. Kinda crowded in there. Wonder if they all played bridge to while the time away?

3) Johns seems to be overlooking the fact that Hal was just trying to go back in time and save Coast City (in a psychotic manner) until he absorbed all sorts of leftover energies from the Anti-Monitor in the timestream. That's when the megalomaniacal destroy-everything-and-start-over-from-scratch plan got formed. Also worth noting that the first direct action by the Anti-Monitor we saw back in Crisis was striking against the Guardians by turning the main power battery against them. I think that's an issue worth addressing, and it would also strike a nice note with regard to specific enmity for the Spectre.

4) I'm not sure I buy this psychic parasite creature being able to ride Hal Jordan's soul into the afterlife and still influence him. I think mixing sci-fi mind control elements with metaphysics is a sloppy bit of writing. Better it should have remained tied into the still-flawed Hal Jordan ring and all its duplicates (possessed by Kilowog, John Stewart, and now Guy Gardner) and only had access to Hal once he manifested on earth or—better yet—touched an infected battery.


victor infante - Dec 24, 2004 12:18:53 pm PST #7058 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Is anybody here reading JLA: Elite? I'm surprised I've seen no comments about the revelation that Kausmi is Batgirl.


§ ita § - Dec 24, 2004 12:21:52 pm PST #7059 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What? Does this mean I need to read it?

Dammit.


victor infante - Dec 24, 2004 12:41:23 pm PST #7060 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

ita, it's OK. Not my favorite book, but readable. And Kasumi, the ninja assassin mystery woman on the team, turns out to be Batgirl, spying on the JLE for Batman.


§ ita § - Dec 24, 2004 1:34:41 pm PST #7061 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Huh. I may see if there are issues I can read in store, see if I get hooked. Miniseries or continuing?

I have to admit, IC made me a little more league-curious.

And while I remember -- that shot of the league going back to normal has Batman standing in a mysteriously darkened corner, while everyone else is sitting at the table. Do you think they have to crappily light portions of HQ so he can lurk properly?


victor infante - Dec 24, 2004 1:44:26 pm PST #7062 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Miniseries or continuing?

It's a miniseries. The dialog is good, and some of the charcters are fun. Green Arrow and Flash seem a little out of place, but then, they're also being played that way, so it's cool.

Also, I'm certain they do. I'm willing to bet he pencils over design schematics to assure himself corners to lurk in.


victor infante - Dec 24, 2004 2:11:49 pm PST #7063 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Oh, and Matt,I see your point, although I think they're hand waving a couple old stories away. Mocker? Who's that? And when was Dr. Light there? As for the rest, it's obvious Parallax's influence was starting early, but even so, I think we've only gotten part of the story, as evidenced by Sinestro's arrival. And I, for one, am happy to have an even ALMOST satisfying reason for the ring to not work on yellow...


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 24, 2004 5:28:43 pm PST #7064 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Victor, the Dr. Light thing happened not that long before Hal went ballistic. Light had become sentient incorporeal light, and attacked Hal's family at Christmas (via an animated string of Christmas tree lights, no less!). Hal zapped him into his lantern, and thence to Oa. I agree with you about the reason for the yellow impurity, and also think it's nice to have a halfway sensical explanation for what Green Lantern energy actually is. I'd previously seen stories saying that the Guardians drained supernovas to power the battery up (insufficient for what we've seen the Guardians and the Corps as a whole capable of doing), or that it was their own focused mental energies (wouldn't explain why Guardians themselves get weaker if they're away from Oa for an extended period, or the wacky yellow limitation).


victor infante - Dec 24, 2004 5:31:33 pm PST #7065 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Yeah, I'm thinking a few GL stories from back then will be handwaved away. Such is life with the spandex set.


Noumenon - Dec 27, 2004 7:30:25 am PST #7066 of 10000
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

I ran across a snarky comic remix of Identity Crisis #3. The funny thing is I never read Identity Crisis, so I didn't know what I'd been linked to until he touched on an event that you guys had complained about upthread. It was funny even not knowing the source. He also did a couple pages of Wolverine goes to Japan.