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sumi - Dec 05, 2004 6:05:09 pm PST #6828 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Yes, there was a new JLU.

I was kind of "meh" about it.


DXMachina - Dec 05, 2004 6:06:42 pm PST #6829 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

He's definitely not as fast as Flash, and can't quite fly at the speed of light.

He used to be able to fly faster than light (stoopid retconning). There was a race between him and Barry Allen in one of the annuals that Barry won, IIRC, but both heros lost time because of villains and such, so it was inconclusive.


§ ita § - Dec 05, 2004 6:08:45 pm PST #6830 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He seemed awfully underpowered in this JLU ep, is why I was wondering. It seemed that he felt pain too soon, and could have used his speed and superbreath to overcome some of the problems. It seemed too much like they were playing the League dumb so the Ultimen would look better.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 05, 2004 6:32:05 pm PST #6831 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

He does indeed feel pain, but it takes a LOT.

If the cartoon version corresponds to the comic version of recent years, his threshold for pain is WAY below his threshold for injury. He's survived point blank thermonuclear detonations without serious harm, but blows from various villains and other heroes have stunned him and/or made him yelp. Pretty much if you can pick up an I-beam and clock him with it, you can get an "ungh!"


Kalshane - Dec 05, 2004 7:11:30 pm PST #6832 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

That's one problem I've noticed with Superman having so many powers, (in that cartoons at least, as well as on Smallville) is there are times when he doesn't use a power that would be really appropriate in that circumstance because if he did it would ruin the story the writer is trying to tell.

It wasn't the greatest episode ever, but it had some amusing moments, especially Aquaman back-handing "Waterboy" (I can't remember either his old name or the one used in this episode. Bizarro singing "Bizarro come to save the day!" Mighty Mouse-style also made me laugh.

While it was a nice shoutout to the old Superfriends cartoons, Batman's "Old chum" was out of character with the current version.


esse - Dec 06, 2004 1:36:56 am PST #6833 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Has anyone else read JLA/JSA Virtue and Vice? What an odd little trade that was.


Steph L. - Dec 06, 2004 2:45:21 am PST #6834 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

The only thing I really liked about this week's ep of JLU was when the woman from the shady, unnamed government agency called Batman "rich guy," b/c of the not-so-secret secret-identity implications.


victor infante - Dec 06, 2004 3:34:04 am PST #6835 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Has anyone else read JLA/JSA Virtue and Vice? What an odd little trade that was.

Oh, yeah. That it was. Enjoyed it, though.


esse - Dec 06, 2004 4:01:41 am PST #6836 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I thought it was neat to see the members trussed up like the seven Vices, particularly Batman as Anger. But I don't know the JSA, like, at all, so that was something of a stumbling point for me.

Though, okay. Naked Lex Luthor falls to the ground, and Superman gives him his cloak. I might be reading a little too much Smallville into this, but damn. That was one slashtastic moment, there.


§ ita § - Dec 06, 2004 4:14:13 am PST #6837 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Kalshane, wasn't the "Old chum" something the Windbag had called them earlier on in the ep?

You know, as soon as it was revealed that the person on the other end of the phone was a women, I knew it was Amanda Waller. Totally sounded like a gig for Stonewall. And when Batman said "Mine are bigger," I thought "Only by a little."