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victor infante - Nov 13, 2004 7:43:11 am PST #6429 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

One question: when Dr. Light attacked Sue, why wasn't Supes with the rest of the JLA?

Any number of reasons. One, he was a part-timer. Two, he could have been back dealing with Hector Hammond while half the team dealt with the emergency on the satallite. Or, he could have just been on his own case. Even then he had multiple titles, after all. (:


Steph L. - Nov 13, 2004 7:47:51 am PST #6430 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Well, I don't suspect Supes, but it just seemed weird -- and since Batman was on the satellite after all, I can't help wondering if Supes was, too, and also got mind-wiped.


victor infante - Nov 13, 2004 7:55:23 am PST #6431 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Steph, I'd be truly amazed f that were true. Taking down Batman? That's one thing. Strip it all down and he's still just a guy, although on another day I could be convinced of him taking down Zatanna, Green Lantern, etc. The fact that they beat him doesn't bother me in the least. However, them beating Supes that easy? That would bug me.

No, I'm thinking that, while Supes probably has a clue what went on, and kept mum about it, I think he's laregely uninvolved. And other Leaguers weren't there, either--J'Onn, Aquaman, Red Tornado, Hawkgirl, Firestorm. (All depending on timing, of course.)


Steph L. - Nov 13, 2004 8:01:19 am PST #6432 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Victor, totally. It just seemed weird to me.


§ ita § - Nov 13, 2004 9:39:45 am PST #6433 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Can't Zatanna take Superman just as easily as she can Batman?


victor infante - Nov 13, 2004 9:43:42 am PST #6434 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Well, ita, that's debatable. I'd have to say it would depend on the day. Superman IS vulnerable to magic, and he's more inclined to hold back than Batman is, so it's possible. But even vulnerable to magic, it's still a toss up.


§ ita § - Nov 13, 2004 9:48:19 am PST #6435 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

From the scenario I remember, didn't all it take was getting the drop on him coming in? Hero teleports up, puts two and two together, gets mad, makes a move, gets frozen. Admittedly, Superman's "make a move" has the potential to be lightning fast, but it's so rarely shown that way. Which bothers me, to be honest. And that's assuming that Superman would have gotten four so quickly -- I know what they were doing to Dr. Light, but it didn't at all seem obvious.

I'm not thinking that Superman was there, nor that Batman can take Superman in a fight -- just that, as depicted, the panic would have worked just about as well for anyone, not just a mortal.


victor infante - Nov 13, 2004 9:52:37 am PST #6436 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

You're probably right. Like I said, it all depends on the day. It's doubtful Supes would have reacted the exact same way as Bats, or that they wouldn't have been immediately deferential to Superman's superness. Which happens sometimes. For that matter, Green Arrow's already hinted that Supes may well have an idea what's happened, and turned a blind eye to it, so who knows?


Gris - Nov 13, 2004 4:25:04 pm PST #6437 of 10000
Hey. New board.

I just read all six Identity Crisis books. Wow. Just... whoa.


Polter-Cow - Nov 13, 2004 5:07:54 pm PST #6438 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Aw, crap, I just realized who the killer in IC is. Duh.

The butler did it.