Wash: Little River just gets more colorful by the moment. What'll she do next? Zoe: Either blow us all up or rub soup in our hair. It's a toss-up. Wash: I hope she does the soup thing. It's always a hoot, and we don't all die from it.

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askye - Oct 02, 2004 8:47:43 am PDT #6112 of 10000
Thrive to spite them

I'm a little sketchy on my X Men canon, but when Rogue was still with Mystique and bad she absorbed Ms. Marvel's personality and powers. Something happened and she kept Ms. Marvel's powers which included flight, super human strength, etc.

I think she ended up with Ms. Marvel's personality at one point too.


victor infante - Oct 02, 2004 8:48:04 am PDT #6113 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Rogue should not be able to fly around, pick up a tree, and knock down large juggernaut-sized mutants with it. She doesn't have super-strength in my mind.

Uhm, Rogue had Ms. Marvel's (Carol Danvers, now called Warbird) powers for most of her existence in the real Marvel Universe. Indeed, the accident of permanently draining Carol's powers and memories was what lead to Rogue reforming. IIRCC, she's currently devoid of all her powers, but remains with the X-Men.

Is Scott supposed to be strong enough to break metal chains without using his eye-thing? I don't think he is. Another example.

This one,on the other hand, I've got nothing for.


Gandalfe - Oct 02, 2004 8:58:32 am PDT #6114 of 10000
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

I'm a little sketchy on my X Men canon, but when Rogue was still with Mystique and bad she absorbed Ms. Marvel's personality and powers. Something happened and she kept Ms. Marvel's powers which included flight, super human strength, etc.

She sucked her completely dry - held on to her for so long, that it was permanent. One of the side effects was that she took her mind/personality as well, which is why she became a good guy.

In fact, it wasn't until I'd been reading X-Men for a while that I realised that the superstrength/flight/invulerability wasn't actually Rogue's power.

Is Scott supposed to be strong enough to break metal chains without using his eye-thing? I don't think he is. Another example.

Ummmm . . . . They were really WEAK chains?


DavidS - Oct 02, 2004 8:59:05 am PDT #6115 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Rogue should not be able to fly around, pick up a tree, and knock down large juggernaut-sized mutants with it. She doesn't have super-strength in my mind.

Uhm, Rogue had Ms. Marvel's (Carol Danvers, now called Warbird) powers for most of her existence in the real Marvel Universe.

I was gonna say, Rogue's been super strong/flying most of her career.


Polter-Cow - Oct 02, 2004 9:11:54 am PDT #6116 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

In fact, I think I remember the Ms. Marvel bit being in the cartoon at one point, which is how I learned about it.


Mr. Broom - Oct 02, 2004 2:19:10 pm PDT #6117 of 10000
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

IIRCC, she's currently devoid of all her powers, but remains with the X-Men.
She and Gambit both lost their powers for a time, then regained them. I think it was Marvel's way of ironing out the ridiculousness of her powers after she absorbed a Skrull and had even less control of her power manifestations than before. Now she's back to being Rogue like we know her.
Pffft. It was a television microscope. They're extra special. Television microscopes can even be used to determine molecular stuctures.
Exactly. C'mon, P-C, you'll accept the fact that Wolverine's claws, when sheathed, don't make his wrists entirely immobile, but you'll balk at an explanation-expediting piece of science-botchin? You must learn to suspend your disbelief more consistently. I know, I know, it's hitting you professionally.


Gris - Oct 02, 2004 2:27:20 pm PDT #6118 of 10000
Hey. New board.

Okay. I accept all of that. It makes sense. It annoys me, though - I like Rogue better without those powers. Hmmph. Maybe if they ever do that story in Ultimate canon, I'll convert.


quinbot - Oct 03, 2004 3:01:33 pm PDT #6119 of 10000

Wolverine's claws are supposed to retract all the way into his forearms.

eta: That's why he can pop the claws out through his palms when he needs to if his hands are bent back. Mutant healing factor, hurray!


JZ - Oct 04, 2004 3:05:10 am PDT #6120 of 10000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Mutant healing factor, hurray!

Is it terribly wrong that I can hear this only in Dr. Zoidberg's voice?


Holli - Oct 04, 2004 3:19:09 am PDT #6121 of 10000
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

Is it terribly wrong that I can hear this only in Dr. Zoidberg's voice?

Well, be comforted by the knowledge that you're no longer alone.