So. Teen Titans confused the hell out of me. I was pretty wrong in my War Games theory. But Astounishing was damn good. So.
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Steph L. - Sep 22, 2004 2:15:35 pm PDT #6001 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
Polter-Cow - Sep 22, 2004 2:19:16 pm PDT #6002 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I was pretty wrong in my War Games theory.
I thought you turned out to be right. There was Bandage Guy, right there. Unless you think Black Mask was killing everyone. Actually, who are we talking about? Killing whom? I don't even know what the hell's going on in this thing anymore.
§ ita § - Sep 22, 2004 2:21:24 pm PDT #6003 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Teen Titans has Legionnaires. They make me dizzy.
I wonder if Kon will keep the outfit. I'm somewhat disgruntled by Superboy in the Legion. Was our Superman still the Legion Superboy?
DXMachina - Sep 22, 2004 3:36:09 pm PDT #6004 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
I wonder if Kon will keep the outfit. I'm somewhat disgruntled by Superboy in the Legion. Was our Superman still the Legion Superboy?
Here's the deal with Superboy in the Legion. Pre-crisis, it was Clark Kent, who would occasionally travel forward in time and fight evil doers in the 30th century. The original Supergirl did it, too. Superboy didn't appear with the Legion again until a bunch of post-Zero Hour Legionnaires got stuck in the 20th century for a couple of years, where they met Kon and Bart, among others. Eventually the Legionnaires got back to when they were supposed to be. Then about a year ago, a bunch of Darkseid's minions sucked Kon into the future through a boom tube, thinking he was young Clark Kent. When they found out he wasn't, they jettisoned him unconscious into space while they went back in time to look for the real deal. The Legion found him floating about, revived him, and gave him the new uni. They wanted to send back, but didn't want to mess with paradoxes and such, so they had to wait until Kon's memory cleared up. He's been hanging around with the Legion for comic relief ever since.
Other Titan thoughts: I was surprised to see the Persuader in full villain mode in the little preview at the end of last issue, because in the last issue of Legion he was helping the warden at the prison he was incarcerated at restore order after a prison riot. Unless this Persuader is from another universe. That would make my head hurt.
There's also a continuity error. When Bart asks about his cousin, XS, Kid Quantum says that she's with Mon-El. Mon-El hasn't been called Mon-El since before Zero Hour. (Mon-El was the most bizarre continuity of any character, anywhere, anytime...) In this continuity, he goes by M'Onel. Unless they're planning on wiping out Legion continuity yet again as they launch another new book.
§ ita § - Sep 22, 2004 3:41:49 pm PDT #6005 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Wait, so Kon has been in the Legion comic too this whole time? I think you made it worse, DX. My brain is sprained.
DXMachina - Sep 22, 2004 3:55:34 pm PDT #6006 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
Time is a tricky thing. My old fanwank on all the time Clark and Kara spent with the Legion was that maybe Kryptonians age slower than humans, so all those two week trips to the future helped them appear to age at an Earth-normal rate. Not that that applies to Kon...
askye - Sep 22, 2004 4:40:48 pm PDT #6007 of 10000
Thrive to spite them
My reaction to Teen Titans was
the hell?? I was so confused. Plus I wasn't sure if I should be groaning at all the Legionaire's code names. I mean really, do they all need to be Whatever Boy???
Astonishing Colossus!!!! Loved the looks on their faces when they saw him behind the alien dude who's name Ihaven't bothered to remember. Loved his reaction of "Is that dragon behind me?" Plus Cyclops' uniform delusion.
sumi - Sep 22, 2004 4:47:47 pm PDT #6008 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!
Yes -- I loved that in Astounishing too.
The Flash left me very confused. Okay in IC they showed Barry Allen at his wife Iris' grave. And now she is alive? Help!
Also, Roy couldn't find somebody NOT related to a super-villain to babysit? Come on!
Steph L. - Sep 22, 2004 5:02:39 pm PDT #6009 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
As confusing as Teen Titans is, the explanation is even more confusing. Meep!
victor infante - Sep 22, 2004 5:06:39 pm PDT #6010 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
Sumi, Iris Allen-West, the once deceased wife of Barry Allen, AKA the Flash, was murdered way back in the silver age, except that she was actually from the 30th century, and so was rescued and revived at last minute but, for various reasons, had to stay there. Eventually, Barry joined her there for a while, before biting the big one to save the universe. Bart Allen--Impulse--is her and Barry's grandson.
She came back to the present eventually for various Bart-related reasons other people can explain better than me.