But I understand. You gave up everything you had to find me. And you found me broken. It's hard for you.

River ,'Safe'


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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


victor infante - Sep 22, 2004 5:06:39 pm PDT #6010 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Sumi, Iris Allen-West, the once deceased wife of Barry Allen, AKA the Flash, was murdered way back in the silver age, except that she was actually from the 30th century, and so was rescued and revived at last minute but, for various reasons, had to stay there. Eventually, Barry joined her there for a while, before biting the big one to save the universe. Bart Allen--Impulse--is her and Barry's grandson.

She came back to the present eventually for various Bart-related reasons other people can explain better than me.


sumi - Sep 22, 2004 5:10:08 pm PDT #6011 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Ah, yes. Another explanation that MAKES NO SENSE. Comic logic is insane troll logic, isn't it?

I'm avoiding thinking about the Teen Titans explanation because I don't want my head to spin, but are they launching a new book in about future Teen Titans?


DXMachina - Sep 22, 2004 5:11:05 pm PDT #6012 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Bart Allen--Impulse--is her and Barry's grandson.

He's calling himself Kid Flash now, right?


§ ita § - Sep 22, 2004 5:11:35 pm PDT #6013 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

are they launching a new book in about future Teen Titans?

Didn't they do that already?


sumi - Sep 22, 2004 5:12:11 pm PDT #6014 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

I don't know.


DXMachina - Sep 22, 2004 5:14:00 pm PDT #6015 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Ah, yes. Another explanation that MAKES NO SENSE. Comic logic is insane troll logic, isn't it?

How many times did Buffy die again?


§ ita § - Sep 22, 2004 5:16:56 pm PDT #6016 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How many times did Buffy die again?

There's a reason for where that phrase was born.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 22, 2004 5:17:50 pm PDT #6017 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

How many times did Buffy die again?

Did she flatline after getting shot by Warren? I honestly can't remember.


sumi - Sep 22, 2004 5:20:58 pm PDT #6018 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Was there time travel involved?

I don't think that she did die when Warren shot her --but she was dying so -- umm, twice?


DXMachina - Sep 22, 2004 5:31:42 pm PDT #6019 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Was there time travel involved?

Nah, that was Sahjahn and Holtz.