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Holli - Sep 20, 2004 10:49:55 am PDT #5969 of 10000
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

Okay, now I'm confused. Didn't Hector *die* in Sandman?


P.M. Marc - Sep 20, 2004 11:00:32 am PDT #5970 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Okay, now I'm confused. Didn't Hector *die* in Sandman?

Yep.


amych - Sep 20, 2004 11:01:18 am PDT #5971 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Didn't Hector *die* in Sandman?

You say that as if it were some kind of permanent thing.


victor infante - Sep 20, 2004 11:03:26 am PDT #5972 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Okay, now I'm confused. Didn't Hector *die* in Sandman?

Actually, he died in Incfinity, Inc.. He was a ghost in Sandman, and Morpheus banished him.

However, in JSA, Hector Hall was reincarnated as the new Dr. Fate. Remember, he's the child of the golden age Hawkman and Hawkwoman, and the whole family has been being reincarnated since ancient Egypt.

Now Lyta's back as Fury, which pretty much puts her back to where she was before Gaiman got his hands on her, and the two of them have been snoozingly dull, ever since.


Wolfram - Sep 20, 2004 11:18:11 am PDT #5973 of 10000
Visilurking

If HH is a Hawkchild where are his wings?


victor infante - Sep 20, 2004 11:53:46 am PDT #5974 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

If HH is a Hawkchild where are his wings?

None of the various Hawkmans--Golden ages reincarnated Egyptian King version or silver age alien cop version--had wings of their own. Both use devices.


Wolfram - Sep 20, 2004 12:11:51 pm PDT #5975 of 10000
Visilurking

Huh? So in last season's JL when the Hawkmen came, those were just devices too?


Tom Scola - Sep 20, 2004 12:14:37 pm PDT #5976 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

I don't think you should draw too big of a parallel between the Hawkmen in the comics and the Hawkmen in the cartoon. The cartoon diverges from the comics continuity in many profound ways.


Mr. Broom - Sep 20, 2004 12:53:13 pm PDT #5977 of 10000
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

It's funny how Sandman is so isolated from the rest of the DC Universe; stuff you read in Sandman is permanent; everything else is temporary. So when someone resurrects a character that is established as very, very dead in Sandman, it rankles.


P.M. Marc - Sep 20, 2004 1:02:25 pm PDT #5978 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

It's funny how Sandman is so isolated from the rest of the DC Universe; stuff you read in Sandman is permanent; everything else is temporary. So when someone resurrects a character that is established as very, very dead in Sandman, it rankles.

Hmm. Do you read JSA? Because bringing Hector back was really well done, and I've been re-reading Sandman at least once a year for years now. (I agree, Victor, that he and Lyta haven't been exactly exciting since her return, but hey, it's early days yet.)

It's only *kind of* isolated. I mean, Dream's shown up to give Kyle a pep talk about his path as Green Lantern. Which was just weird.