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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Tom Scola - Sep 20, 2004 12:14:37 pm PDT #5976 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

I don't think you should draw too big of a parallel between the Hawkmen in the comics and the Hawkmen in the cartoon. The cartoon diverges from the comics continuity in many profound ways.


Mr. Broom - Sep 20, 2004 12:53:13 pm PDT #5977 of 10000
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

It's funny how Sandman is so isolated from the rest of the DC Universe; stuff you read in Sandman is permanent; everything else is temporary. So when someone resurrects a character that is established as very, very dead in Sandman, it rankles.


P.M. Marc - Sep 20, 2004 1:02:25 pm PDT #5978 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

It's funny how Sandman is so isolated from the rest of the DC Universe; stuff you read in Sandman is permanent; everything else is temporary. So when someone resurrects a character that is established as very, very dead in Sandman, it rankles.

Hmm. Do you read JSA? Because bringing Hector back was really well done, and I've been re-reading Sandman at least once a year for years now. (I agree, Victor, that he and Lyta haven't been exactly exciting since her return, but hey, it's early days yet.)

It's only *kind of* isolated. I mean, Dream's shown up to give Kyle a pep talk about his path as Green Lantern. Which was just weird.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 20, 2004 3:21:18 pm PDT #5979 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Eh. If you say so. I was OK with Hector until they brought Lyta back, undoing anything interesting that had been done with her in the Vertigo stories.

Yes. Another problem is that, YET AGAIN, they decided to make Nabu the Wise into a semi-villainous figure that had to be overcome by whoever is currently Dr. Fate.

I think the character is much more interesting when the wearer is being unduly influenced, if not outright possessed, by the spirit of Nabu in the helm. For however many years, Fate was portrayed as spooky, cold, and logical with no sentiment. I'm very disappointed that Johns had him go on another power trip after so nicely disregarding the last one from the DeMatteis run.


victor infante - Sep 20, 2004 3:57:27 pm PDT #5980 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

It's only *kind of* isolated. I mean, Dream's shown up to give Kyle a pep talk about his path as Green Lantern. Which was just weird.

Yeah, he's also been tangentially around JSA, which is kind of OK, considering his many connections there, both through Daniel's parents (the current Dr. Fate and Fury) and his connection to Wesley Dodds, the Golden Age Sandman.

I think the character is much more interesting when the wearer is being unduly influenced, if not outright possessed, by the spirit of Nabu in the helm. For however many years, Fate was portrayed as spooky, cold, and logical with no sentiment.

Yeah, that's kind of how I like Fate, too. I'd like to see some sort of accord there.


sumi - Sep 21, 2004 6:03:49 am PDT #5981 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

So, tomorrow? Lots of stuff coming out:
War Games:
Batgirl #56
Catwoman #35
Robin #130

Non War Games: Manhunter #2
Teen Titans #16
Flash #214 - -which has an IC tie-in and
Astounishing #5


Steph L. - Sep 21, 2004 6:05:40 am PDT #5982 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

sumi, your list is my list, except I'm not reading Manhunter or Flash. Though I might flip through Flash while I'm in the store, just to see what the IC tie-in is.


§ ita § - Sep 21, 2004 6:24:04 am PDT #5983 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

ita's pull list:

Batgirl #56
Catwoman #35
Robin #130
Teen Titans #16
Astonishing X-Men #5
Ultimate Elektra #2
Ultimate Fantastic Four #11
Uncanny X-Men #449


sumi - Sep 21, 2004 6:45:54 am PDT #5984 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

From Comics Continuum:

Morena Baccarin, who plays Inara Serra in the Firefly television series and upcoming Serenity movie, is providing the voice of Black Canary in Cartoon Network's Justice League Unlimited.


sumi - Sep 21, 2004 6:47:16 am PDT #5985 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Ooh, and looks at this:

As previously reported, Nathan Fillion is voicing Vigilante and Gina Torres is voicing Vixen. Adam Baldwin is voicing a villain in the season finale.

I only knew about Gina Torres.