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Tom Scola - Jul 04, 2004 5:55:20 pm PDT #4568 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

From the link above:

As the Waynes' bodies lay still on the cold pavement, young Bruce - then just ten years old - vowed to seek justice and apprehend his parents' vicious killer.

Funded by the Wayne fortune and enabled by the family's loyal valet Alfred Pennyworth, Bruce circumvented the restraints of foster care and embarked on a decade-long worldwide trek to learn all he needed to fulfill his promise. Teachers and mentors on both sides of the law taught Bruce the skills - from little-known martial arts to the latest detective processes - that he would use to hone his body and mind into a living weapon in what would eventually become an unrelenting war on crime.

It was a long-term plan.


§ ita § - Jul 04, 2004 5:57:28 pm PDT #4569 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It was a long-term plan.

No, I get that. But what I'm asking is -- when did Bruce become a dilettante? Was the overachiever stuff being hidden all this time? How does a 12 year old do that?


Tom Scola - Jul 04, 2004 6:02:45 pm PDT #4570 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Bruce more or less disappeared for ten years. Most of his studying was incognito. When he returned, he could use the cover story that he was off sewing his wild oats.


§ ita § - Jul 04, 2004 6:05:20 pm PDT #4571 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Most of his studying was incognito.

I have a memory of Bruce at Oxford or Cambridge -- is this an Elseworlds confusion, or a complete fabrication? In fact, wherever I got that, they named another big school, and mentioned investigating more legal ways of fulfilling his mission.


victor infante - Jul 04, 2004 6:06:33 pm PDT #4572 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Ita, It's hard to say, having only read the first issue. But Firestorm's always been a composite being, so anything's possible. Also, it's entirely possible that Ronnie's in there somewhere.


§ ita § - Jul 04, 2004 6:07:21 pm PDT #4573 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay -- the second issue raised some questions, and I'll remind myself to ask you them then.


Tom Scola - Jul 04, 2004 6:12:12 pm PDT #4574 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

That part of Bruce's life is murky, and subject to the interpretation of different writers. I know that he studied at the FBI Academy at Quantico. Maybe he tried to go legit, but decided that beating up the bad guys was a whole lot more satisfying.


§ ita § - Jul 04, 2004 6:15:48 pm PDT #4575 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I know that he studied at the FBI Academy at Quantico.

Okay, this sounds familiar. But I couldn't reconcile it with the flaky playboy, so I wasn't sure.

I can see him losing faith in the law (better to redefine than to fix that which never found his parents' killer). Just not sure how he managed the slick transition.

Does anyone know how early the new Batman movie starts? I mean, I'm sure they'll cover the shooting, but when the main part of the narrative gets underway.


§ ita § - Jul 04, 2004 6:37:19 pm PDT #4576 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

In Ultimate Spiderman 55, Doc Ock's arms talk to him. Do they do that in the normal Marvel-verse?


Polter-Cow - Jul 04, 2004 8:58:49 pm PDT #4577 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

In Ultimate Spiderman 55, Doc Ock's arms talk to him.

Is that part of Ultimate Six ? I wasn't sure if they were actually talking to him, or if he just "felt them calling to him" cause he's a loony supervillain and all.