Plei, this fear that Jason will go on to be a worse criminal than any that Batman faced previously was that an actual fear that Batman faced about Jason? -- I've ONLY ever read Jason in the story where he is killed.

His art was good til the mid-90s (and still could be if he'd get a decent finisher who could complete his current 40 minutes to draw 22 pages style).

He has a nice, clean line, but a *very* distinctive facial style (I think it's the cheekbones) and that bugs me. He also seems to have five expressions. But his bodies are great (except in Generations, Robin, Batman and Superman all canonically have the same physique -- also irritating) and he has a pretty decent sense of space.

His writing was good when he co-plotted X-men with Claremont, and on Fantastic Four, Superman, and She-Hulk.

Aha! I'm wont to give all the X-credit to Claremont, so thanks for reminding me. Did he reboot Superman a bit? Change some stuff around? I have that vague memory. And I read a little bit of his She-Hulk -- that was kind of fun.

I think Byrne provided much of the cohesion and focus that Claremont lacks. Bryne completely revamped Superman in the wake of Crisis, though a lot of the old elements have been creeping back in in recent years.

And I imagine that Bats' fears about Jason are also fears he has about himself and perhaps part of why he doesn't allow himself to kill the villains because he sees in himself the ability to be the most vile murderer of them all.

Sumi: no to your first, well, not exactly, and I'd say yes to your second.

Sumi:

why he doesn't allow himself to kill the villains because he sees in himself the ability to be the most vile murderer of them all.

In other words, a Slayer is NOT a killer?

Umm, Teppy, am I wrong in thinking that Bats doesn't kill the evil doers? Or at least tries to not kill them? Which is why he has issues with Huntress?

Oh, I know -- but the similarity just struck me -- neither one wants to acknowledge the killer within. In Buffy's case, she gets around it by only killing demons, and when it's brought up that that's more of a grey issue than a black-and-white one, she gets profoundly uncomfortable. In Bats' case, he gets around looking at the killer within simply by an inviolate no-kill policy.

They aren't exactly alike, but similar enough that I thought "Heeeeey...."

Okay -- that makes sense to me. I was wondering whether what I had perceived as Bats having a no kill policy was more a no gun policy and that he felt free to kill villains by other mean.s

Nope. You interpreted correctly.

As Dick said, rule number one, we don't kill.