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'The Killer In Me'


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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 02, 2004 8:07:20 am PDT #4499 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think Byrne provided much of the cohesion and focus that Claremont lacks. Bryne completely revamped Superman in the wake of Crisis, though a lot of the old elements have been creeping back in in recent years.


sumi - Jul 02, 2004 8:24:05 am PDT #4500 of 10000
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And I imagine that Bats' fears about Jason are also fears he has about himself and perhaps part of why he doesn't allow himself to kill the villains because he sees in himself the ability to be the most vile murderer of them all.


P.M. Marc - Jul 02, 2004 8:33:58 am PDT #4501 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Sumi: no to your first, well, not exactly, and I'd say yes to your second.


Steph L. - Jul 02, 2004 8:37:06 am PDT #4502 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Sumi:

why he doesn't allow himself to kill the villains because he sees in himself the ability to be the most vile murderer of them all.

In other words, a Slayer is NOT a killer?


sumi - Jul 02, 2004 8:44:13 am PDT #4503 of 10000
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Umm, Teppy, am I wrong in thinking that Bats doesn't kill the evil doers? Or at least tries to not kill them? Which is why he has issues with Huntress?


Steph L. - Jul 02, 2004 8:46:56 am PDT #4504 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Oh, I know -- but the similarity just struck me -- neither one wants to acknowledge the killer within. In Buffy's case, she gets around it by only killing demons, and when it's brought up that that's more of a grey issue than a black-and-white one, she gets profoundly uncomfortable. In Bats' case, he gets around looking at the killer within simply by an inviolate no-kill policy.

They aren't exactly alike, but similar enough that I thought "Heeeeey...."


sumi - Jul 02, 2004 8:49:39 am PDT #4505 of 10000
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Okay -- that makes sense to me. I was wondering whether what I had perceived as Bats having a no kill policy was more a no gun policy and that he felt free to kill villains by other mean.s


P.M. Marc - Jul 02, 2004 8:50:47 am PDT #4506 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Nope. You interpreted correctly.

As Dick said, rule number one, we don't kill.


Polter-Cow - Jul 02, 2004 8:51:55 am PDT #4507 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Rule number two, we wear tights.


sumi - Jul 02, 2004 8:53:40 am PDT #4508 of 10000
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And now I've got to leave.