Hey now! Supervillan toxins are *not* Bruce's fault. Though, of course, one could argue that *what* he sees and the conversations he has do indicated a bit about his level of fucked-puppydom.
I kissed him, and I told him that I loved him. And I killed him.
Buffy ,'Same Time, Same Place'
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P.M. Marc - Jul 02, 2004 7:40:20 am PDT #4488 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
§ ita § - Jul 02, 2004 7:44:57 am PDT #4489 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Let your freak flag fly, Bruce. Without the villain, where would you be?
Reading the Supes/Bats Generations crap (Byrne used to be good, right? Can someone remind me when?) he's just so damned chipper the whole time (I think he mentions offhand that having a Robin took the edge off, so it's pink puppies for everyone). He quite casually hallucinates/is visited by the ghost of Alfred. And they completely don't go into that. I mean, if it's not a hallucination, the implication is that Alfred will serve Bruce forever, beyond death. Which is awful. None of the other dead people appear to him, just poor Alfred who probably thought he could finally get a vacation.
Steph L. - Jul 02, 2004 7:46:07 am PDT #4490 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Let your freak flag fly, Bruce.
I think I'd like to tag this, if I may.
§ ita § - Jul 02, 2004 7:46:59 am PDT #4491 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It is all yours, Steph.
sumi - Jul 02, 2004 7:48:31 am PDT #4492 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!
Let me go grab my copy of it. . . did you think they drew Tim so v. child-like because of the Jason-hallucination?. I'm not very familiar with how Jason was drawn -- before -- was he always more adult looking?
Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 02, 2004 7:51:49 am PDT #4493 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Byrne used to be good, right? Can someone remind me when?
His art was good til the mid-90s (and still could be if he'd get a decent finisher who could complete his current 40 minutes to draw 22 pages style). His writing was good when he co-plotted X-men with Claremont, and on Fantastic Four, Superman, and She-Hulk.
He'd be a great writer if he exclusively wrote a series with Niles Caulder vs. Darkseid and no other speaking parts.
P.M. Marc - Jul 02, 2004 7:51:53 am PDT #4494 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Sumi Jason is being drawn in this in the way Clayface-as-Jason looked in Hush, for the most part. An adult Jason that never was, basically, with a side order of issues.
Steph L. - Jul 02, 2004 7:51:53 am PDT #4495 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism
It is all yours, Steph.
Muchas merci, fraulein!
Kalshane - Jul 02, 2004 7:54:25 am PDT #4496 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
Byrne used to be good, right? Can someone remind me when?
That's what I've heard. Not sure when. All I know is nowadays he's not only lousy but an asshat as well.
sumi - Jul 02, 2004 7:56:33 am PDT #4497 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!
Plei, this fear that Jason will go on to be a worse criminal than any that Batman faced previously was that an actual fear that Batman faced about Jason? -- I've ONLY ever read Jason in the story where he is killed.