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Polter-Cow - Jun 17, 2004 2:49:24 pm PDT #3996 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Okay, anyone want to talk Daredevil ? Cause damn. A week after I'm all, "I just read it out of habit now," Bendis goes and hooks me on the story's own merits again.

I loved the return to Matt's psyche. All these Matt-less issues were kind of alienating me as a reader. I loved the page of thoughts with a Matt/Daredevil split image. This is the kind of thing I read superhero comics for, the psychological perils of the job.

I wondered at first whether Bendis was setting this in the same universe as The Ultimates, but then Nick Fury was white, and not Samuel L. Jackson.

And Black Widow? Hot. Actually, I realized something I liked about Milla. She wasn't drawn hot. Attractive, yes. But not comic-book hot, like any of Matt's previous girlfriends. It's refreshing once in a while. Natasha, though? Still rowr.

Not to mention, Bendis brought the funny. The Ben/Matt phone conversation was great. "'Certain peril'? Are you writing the article in your head before it's even happened?" And Natasha's obvious comeback to Matt's assertion that his life was in disarray.

So whew. My faith in the title has been reinvigorated. As proof, I picked up two more used trades, Wake Up and Echo Vision-Quest. The latter I had previously sworn not to get cause it didn't do much for me, but I was willing to believe I hadn't appreciated it enough before. And Mack's art is gorgeous.

Now all I'm missing is Hardcore, and my trade collection will be complete and up-to-date!

And even though it's the new, yellow cover, it seems to be the only one I'll find, so I picked up Dark Knight Returns after having passed on it before. So I finally own DKR. About time, huh?


CaBil - Jun 17, 2004 5:34:18 pm PDT #3997 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Starman and Black Canary team up in Brave and Bold 61.

Which was later revealed to be a team-up in every sense of the word...


victor infante - Jun 17, 2004 5:42:47 pm PDT #3998 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Which was later revealed to be a team-up in every sense of the word...

Just giving us reason to believe that most of them are.


P.M. Marc - Jun 17, 2004 5:57:27 pm PDT #3999 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Just giving us reason to believe that most of them are.

Again, we need a chart.


Jeff Mejia - Jun 17, 2004 7:50:08 pm PDT #4000 of 10000
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

Re: BoP #68 - that issue was dynamite. I like how it opened up quickly with the lacerating quips. Too bad it spoils part of what's going to happen in Green Arrow #40 (like you couldn't see it coming). Plei, I love your analysis of how the BoP unites the two major "super families" of the DC universe (although a case could be made that the Flash family has some standing). I think this issue should be used as an object lesson on how character should be driving a comic book story.

BTW, I pointed out a while back that the last Flash issue had Nightwing in a significant role, and that is carrying over to next week's issue - plus we get Gorilla Grodd!

With the Outsiders, it's kind of hard to fit these issues in with Nightwing continuity. I don't go nuts in trying to make things fit, but the emotional devastation that Dick is experiencing isn't translating at all in the team book. It could be that he really has learned from the master and is able to compartmentalize the emotions so that he can fulfill his duties as team leader.

I've still got many new comics to read, so I can talk about DD sometime soon. I did want to add that in my trip to the comic store, I really scored on a big run of Green Arrow (first series) issues, all in probably Very Fine condition, at the rate of 5 for $1. Since I'm collect GA, this was a major score, and filled up almost all of Connor's run as GA after Ollie died. (I still can't get my hands on GA #101, Ollie's funeral.) But I finally scored Birds of Prey #8!

You know, this can get expensive, if you stop to think about it. Good thing I don't.

[Edit - MY FIRST MAJOR NUMBERSLUT in all the time I've been on the boards! Another score!]


sumi - Jun 17, 2004 7:53:13 pm PDT #4001 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Excellent number Jeff.


P.M. Marc - Jun 17, 2004 9:15:55 pm PDT #4002 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I think this issue should be used as an object lesson on how character should be driving a comic book story.

Most certainly. Also in how to do a between-arcs issue well. (There's a GA that's pretty much the reverse case, in between Straight Shooter and City Walls that's how *not* to do one, IMO, though I think it suffered from having a guest writer.)

I love this issue so much. I've been randomly thinking of it and grinning today.

I really scored on a big run of Green Arrow (first series) issues, all in probably Very Fine condition, at the rate of 5 for $1. Since I'm collect GA, this was a major score, and filled up almost all of Connor's run as GA after Ollie died.

Sweet! That would be mostly Dixon's run that you got?


Jeff Mejia - Jun 18, 2004 2:27:47 am PDT #4003 of 10000
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

Sweet! That would be mostly Dixon's run that you got?

Yes. I don't know if he directly took over from Grell after #80, but I'm looking at #83 right not (with the Huntress on the cover, no less), and Dixon was writing it by then. Oops, reading the letter column, it's apparent that #83 was his first GA issue.

(There's a GA that's pretty much the reverse case, in between Straight Shooter and City Walls that's how *not* to do one, IMO, though I think it suffered from having a guest writer.)

Yes, the dreaded "fill-in issue". You're talking about the one with the Arrowcar, right? Written by Scott Beatty? One of the drawbacks of the consistent monthly schedule is that these fill-ins become necessary to give the artist(s) time to breathe. It's better when the fill-in is still written by the main writer, but I know that many editors keep a "slush pile" for fill-in purposes on each title, just in case.


sumi - Jun 18, 2004 4:37:53 am PDT #4004 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

There have been at least 3 long-time relationships in the DC-verse that have broken up recently? I started wondering if this might be something that the IC might affect somehow.


P.M. Marc - Jun 18, 2004 5:06:35 am PDT #4005 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yes, the dreaded "fill-in issue". You're talking about the one with the Arrowcar, right? Written by Scott Beatty?

Yerp. That one. Which, of course, just *had* to be the first GA I picked up months ago when I was deciding if I wanted to read it or not. Man, the Arrowcar issue was lame.

I keep thinking Beatty's written something I liked, too. But that wasn't it.

There have been at least 3 long-time relationships in the DC-verse that have broken up recently? I started wondering if this might be something that the IC might affect somehow.

Babs dumped Dick, Linda left Wally, and Jade dumped Kyle.

The only relationship I really see IC potentially affecting is Linda and Wally's marriage.