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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


P.M. Marc - Jun 17, 2004 12:10:15 pm PDT #3986 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

A fact without which much of fanfiction would not exist.

Hell, a fact without which much of DC canon would not exist, really.


DavidS - Jun 17, 2004 12:35:20 pm PDT #3987 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Anybody read Shiny Shelf? Looks like a UK genre media review site. In a review of Astouishing X-Men the reviewer says:

Whedon chooses to re-introduce the core team via returning X-Man Kitty Pryde (aka Shadowcat) who you can’t help but suspect was the existing X-Man whose character most appealed to him .It is very hard for a ‘Buffy’/‘Angel’ fan not to notice the similarities in Kitty’s cautious return and Buffy’s arrival in Sunnydale. And two rival heroes in love with a dead heroine who keeps coming back from the grave? It’s even harder not to notice the dialogue similarities: I spent a happy moment working out the analogs (Cyclops is Angel, Wolverine Spike, Beast Giles etc etc) yet there is plenty to enjoy for the non-‘Buffy’ fan. Emma Frost is back on Ice Queen form, savage with her putdowns and exquisitely drawn. Beast’s leonine features have been softened and his tweed ‘Henry McCoy’ suit is back. Wolverine and Cyclops’ animosity continues, despite Jean’s death.

I don't think that Ple would map that way.


sumi - Jun 17, 2004 1:22:10 pm PDT #3988 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Hey -- the previews for next week are up at the Comics Continuum -- there are pages of Astounishing X-Men #2 and look! in The Flash there is a Giant Gorilla! Plus Nightwing!

Sorry for making everyone invisible!


DavidS - Jun 17, 2004 1:22:39 pm PDT #3989 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm looking at a DC timeline and couldn't help but notice that in 1965...

Starman and Black Canary team up in Brave and Bold 61.

They also say that in August of 1965:

Wonder Woman converted from a girl's comic to a fan-boy oriented super hero book. Sales plummet (WW156).

I'm not sure exactly what they mean by that conversion. What was WW doing before that fanboys hated? Having romances?


DavidS - Jun 17, 2004 1:25:16 pm PDT #3990 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

This is kind of addictive.

In April of 1970:

Denny O'Neil and Neal Adams try to revive the dying Green Lantern title by adding Green Arrow and story lines ripped from "today's headlines" The "relevance era" begins. Beginning of the Bronze Age.

And a famous talent raid from the summer of 1970 that influenced all kinds of 70s comics:

Carmine Infantino, Joe Orlando and guide Tony deZuniga treak to the Phillipines in search of new artistic talent. They sign up the Redondo Studio, including Nestor Redondo, Alfredo Alcala, Alex Nino and Ernie Chan and soon their artwork is flooding the mystery and war titles.


P.M. Marc - Jun 17, 2004 1:28:04 pm PDT #3991 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Sumi giant gorillas are a frequent thing. Normally, it's Grood. Who is a nutburger.


amych - Jun 17, 2004 1:28:47 pm PDT #3992 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

What was WW doing before that fanboys hated? Having romances?

Has the world forgotten Capt. Steve Trevor so soon?


Michele T. - Jun 17, 2004 1:43:17 pm PDT #3993 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

It's true. Gorilla Grodd is a fairly major Flash-foe, as it happens. It's a little embarrassing for him.


P.M. Marc - Jun 17, 2004 1:56:54 pm PDT #3994 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Man, I can't spell today!

And, embarrassing for Flash, or for poor Grodd?


sumi - Jun 17, 2004 1:58:58 pm PDT #3995 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Possibly both.