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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


P.M. Marc - May 18, 2004 10:48:04 am PDT #2927 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Micole, there's at least one book on it (How to Read Superhero Comics and Why--I love it, despite myself, and blame it for me falling further into this than just the occasional graphic novel), and Te's been collecting links in her memories section.

I have half-formed ideas and analysis in my head, but right now, I'm completely kid-in-candyshop about it, and not much comes out beyond glurble squee flail.


Frankenbuddha - May 18, 2004 10:51:07 am PDT #2928 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Could also be "Killing hundreds with a poisonous gas is funny! Don't ya get it? Huh? Get it?

You ain't got no sensea humor..."

If you do it on the David Endochrine show it certainly is.

"Now that's just darn rude."


Michele T. - May 18, 2004 11:03:18 am PDT #2929 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Gotham Knights has only been collected as part of cross-book storylines.


shrift - May 18, 2004 11:10:10 am PDT #2930 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Is there a good place for actual Bverse comics analysis out there?

I honestly don't know, although I think one would be welcomed. (LJ community? Someone should volunteer.) My problem is that I'm a Johnny-come-lately to comics, too, and even though I've read A LOT of backstory, I still feel unable to meta.

(Possibly because the moment I start, I get side-tracked by all the re-reading. Or I venture my tiny, nebulous theories and get spanked by canon I don't know. Or because I have the attention span of a gnat, and generally don't meta anyway.)


P.M. Marc - May 18, 2004 11:15:48 am PDT #2931 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Possibly because the moment I start, I get side-tracked by all the re-reading. Or I venture my tiny, nebulous theories and get spanked by canon I don't know.

I'm in a weird reverse of stuff where, with Buffy and Angel, half of everything that was supposed to be fic would turn into essays, and here, everything that's supposed to be essay turns into... fic. I can't quite explain it, beyond a vague notion that making sense of the mythology involves active playing inside the mythology, like Sophocles with less talent and more nudity.


amych - May 18, 2004 11:20:38 am PDT #2932 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I can't quite explain it, beyond a vague notion that making sense of the mythology involves active playing inside the mythology, like Sophocles with less talent and more nudity.

That makes sense to me, and it reminds me of an essay I was going to write. It didn't turn to fic, somehow.


Michele T. - May 18, 2004 11:33:15 am PDT #2933 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Is there a good place for actual Bverse comics analysis out there?

gotham_gazette on LJ seems supposed to be that, and could be revived.


Jeff Mejia - May 19, 2004 5:43:34 am PDT #2934 of 10000
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

Is there a good place for actual Bverse comics analysis out there?

I haven't found much good (or, for the matter, any) analysis of standard superhero comics of any kind. The comics blogosphere tends to produce some good analysis of selected material (Alan Moore and Grant Morrison are particular favorites), but the general consensus is that superheroes can't stand up to real critical analysis (not that I agree, but I would agree that there is a lot of dreck out there). the comics message boards are just full of fanboys worrying about changes to costumes or who would win a fight between INSERT NAME HERE and INSERT OTHER NAME HERE. Almost all chaff, no wheat.

If anybody can find some good current analysis, please point it out.


Micole - May 19, 2004 7:54:15 am PDT #2935 of 10000
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

Purchased today: How to Read Superhero Comics and Why, Robin: Year One, The Golden Streets of Gotham, Gotham Noir, Batman/Huntress: Cry for Blood, Birds of Prey: Catwoman/Batgirl, Birds of Prey: Catwoman/Oracle, Birds of Prey #67, Lucifer #50, Rose and Thorn #6, Gotham Central #19, and Angel Sanctuary Vol. 2.

Library requests put in for more titles than I can recall at the moment.

Damn you all.


Micole - May 19, 2004 12:22:08 pm PDT #2936 of 10000
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

Blogs that seem to have some interesting comics analysis: Peiratikos and The Forager.

Still looking.