Also, if one wanted a crash course in Wally West...

MM might be a better source on Flash info than I, but there's an intersting page on him here.

Does that have his hooking up with Black Canary,

Oh yeah. That was when they had their thing.

Well, there's a 2 gig torrent of Wally West-era Flash comics out there, for starters.

Hmm.

Hmmmmmmmmmm.

That is a good start...

Insent! Sorry, I've been distracted.

No worries. I'm still not 100%, but I'd like the option (and I have Thursday off if I want it).

Also, if one wanted a crash course in Wally West...

Geez. I think all the early Mark Waid stuff is in trades, and that was really the pinnacle. I've dropped off the Flash for awhile, but I hear the current Geoff Johns stuff is great. Just wary of picking up another book.

Also, I'd be remiss if I didn't recommend the early Marv Wolman/George Perez stuff in Titans, which went a long way toward defining him as Kid Flash (Plus, the wicked weird Kid Flash/Raven romance.) And, of course, "Crisis on Infinite Earths," which brought Wally out of retirement and had him replace Barry Allen as the Flash.

Drat. That's right. That's the torrent that I tried getting before I left for SF. No seeds. Ah well.

Victor, I think I have most of the W/P stuff around, and my battered "Crisis" is in the other room.

Victor, I think I have most of the W/P stuff around, and my battered "Crisis" is in the other room.

Way cool. They really set the stage, and then Mark Waid just ran with it.

Does that have his hooking up with Black Canary, or was that just in the regular comics? (Always admired Oliver's taste in women - BC hits a LARGE number of my personal...tastes?...kinks?...certainly not vanilla

Actually, that is one of their major breaks of their relationship. Longbow Hunters was an attempt to "Dark Knight Returns" the Ollie character, and it mostly succeeded. He gave up his trick arrows at this time and his relationship with Shado, female ninja bow and arrow assassin dates from this time...

CaBil beat me to it. Longow Hunters was written and drawn by Mike Grell, and was kind of a Dark Night Returns for Green Arrow. It was followed by the launching of the Green Arrow series (the first solo books for GA, except for a four-issue mini back in 1984). Grell wrote the first 80 issues of this run (it goes to about 134 or so), and drew the first year himself. Grell's take at the time, as CaBil pointed out, was to get away from the trick arrows and "cartoony" aspects of the character, and in fact, none of the other DC superheroes appeared during Gell's run. I've been working my way through the individual issues as I haven't found any trade collections.

Green Arrow was my re-entry point into the DC Universe, and led to me picking up a few issues of Detective, and that's all she wrote. In fact, it was the GA #5 (of the current run), where Batman had knocked Ollie out and took him to the Batcave because he had returned from the dead, that is responsible for this descent into madness for me.

I am certainly glad to see everyone jumping on the comics bandwagon. I've been reading most of the Bat-family comics in a vacuum, so it's great to get some excellent critical analysis. Now I just have to go find my back issues and re-read so I can keep up with the conversation.

Actually, that is one of their major breaks of their relationship.

Yep.

Lord, poor Dinah. Gives me more for my half-formed BoP essay, I guess.