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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Volans - May 13, 2004 12:52:14 pm PDT #2805 of 10000
move out and draw fire

All I know is that to get a kevlar vest that fits my cup size costs WAY too much money.

Transmet: Spider complains about the pollution, but smokes and drives a combustion-engine car. And if it's industrial pollution, why would you have that when you have makers?

The reservations are a good thing, but the neo-nazis are not. Spider's all about seeking the truth, but scorns anyone else who tries to, if they don't see it his way.

Things like that. I'm nit-picking of course, because hey, a comic that even teases like it HAS a thesis, damn. Haven't seen that since Alan Moore. I guess one of the theses I'm getting out of it is that in order to live in a fucked-up violent society, you must be fucked-up and violent yourself...just don't let it touch your heart. Stay open and vulnerable for when you need those things. I guess. I dunno.

(back to reading)


MechaKrelboyne - May 14, 2004 3:50:55 am PDT #2806 of 10000
... and that's a Pantera's box you don't want to open. - Mister Furious

I believe it's established at some point that smoking, at least, has been pretty much taken care of as a health risk. Cars, I'm not sure. I'm hampered by not having read the earlier TPB's in a while.

Nazism is, I figure, Ellis's personal views showing through. The way I remember making sense of a lot of Spider's little idiosyncracies is to figure him for an individualist almost to the point of anarchy. The rules for what people do unto people are much more lax than what the State can do unto people. Plus, he's a druggie, and a certain amount of inconsistency is to be expected, I think.


sumi - May 14, 2004 5:42:42 am PDT #2807 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

I saw Michael Stipe on the Craig Kilborn show last night -- is it sad that when he (Michael) said that he was ear-wormed with a song called "The Outsiders" that REM is recording, I just assumed it was about, you know The Outsiders.

(I guess we'll find out this Fall.)


Michele T. - May 14, 2004 6:57:30 am PDT #2808 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Because I can't find it in the thread -- what was the Mac OSX reader someone pointed to that wasn't Comical?


amych - May 14, 2004 7:11:58 am PDT #2809 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

was it Jomic?


Michele T. - May 14, 2004 8:28:49 am PDT #2810 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Dunno, but that'll do. Thanks!


amych - May 14, 2004 9:24:38 am PDT #2811 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

If it works, let me know. Because, of course, being able to read comics is the real make-or-break in whether I choose a mac or a PC for my shinynewworklaptop.


Steph L. - May 14, 2004 11:27:29 am PDT #2812 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I am all Batversed-up for the weekend. NML #4 came in at the library (I finished 1-3 yesterday, and I already have #5 at home), along with The Long Halloween. And I have much Nightwing to read to get me to #93. Awww yeah.


§ ita § - May 14, 2004 5:16:40 pm PDT #2813 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Here's why I'm not running Marvel: If I was, I would kill the Punisher [...] Which is not to say I won't kill anybody. I mean, it's me. If I didn't kill people, well, gosh, I would feel all ooky inside.

Joss on his Marvel gig, in Entertainment Weekly.


sumi - May 14, 2004 5:20:55 pm PDT #2814 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Oh dear.

When does his first X-Men come out?