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Steph L. - May 10, 2004 10:01:24 am PDT #2480 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Massive and FUNNY crosspost.

Heh. The whole time I was reading it, when Tim was pulling his "But Batman NEEDS a Robin! Don't you SEE?!?" schtick, I was thinking "Man, you are trying to play mindgames with the most fucked-up mind in Gotham. You have problems. Hmmm....maybe you DO belong with the Bat...."


sumi - May 10, 2004 10:04:17 am PDT #2481 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Wait, so Tim is about the same age that Dick was when he became Robin? And probably was that age when Dick was 13? But now Dick is in his 20s?


Michele T. - May 10, 2004 10:39:20 am PDT #2482 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

If you go by the standard continuity that Dick was eight when his parents died, (a) the Tim Drake origin story doesn't work, since I think there's got to be at least six years between Dick and Tim, and (b) you gotta wonder what the hell kind of parents the Flying Graysons were to let a kid that age do a quadruple-flip without a net.


Michele T. - May 10, 2004 10:40:40 am PDT #2483 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Which I realize is not an answer to Sumi's question, but a response to the answers, which are roughly -- as I recall, Dick was eight when his parents died; he's maybe nine or ten tops when he becomes Robin, and he's now mid-to-late 20s.


P.M. Marc - May 10, 2004 10:46:54 am PDT #2484 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

The Dick's age continutity mess is just that.

The solution is not to think about it too hard, or you'll be wiping brains off the screen for HOURS.

In Robin: Year One, he's around 12/13. Middle school age.


Volans - May 10, 2004 2:35:03 pm PDT #2485 of 10000
move out and draw fire

OK, meta-comic question. What are the key points of the superhero form? I'm thinking:

    • Superpowers
    • Weakness
    • Origin Story
    • Secret Identity
    • Kickass Villain
    • Love Interest

What else? Does the love interest have to bounce off the secret identity (a la Tim Drake)? Should the origin story be revealed after the superhero's introduced or before?


§ ita § - May 10, 2004 2:37:59 pm PDT #2486 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How are you defining superpowers?


sumi - May 10, 2004 2:42:24 pm PDT #2487 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Tights -- I think tights are probably important, or at least a silly mask and one of your superpowers is keeping the mask on your face with no visible means of support (see Robin and Nightwing).

Also, Cataclysm arrived here and since I came home during a tornado warning -- well, it just all seems so right.


§ ita § - May 10, 2004 2:45:06 pm PDT #2488 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Tights are more popular than superpowers.


amych - May 10, 2004 2:45:58 pm PDT #2489 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Well, superpowers don't look nearly so good stretched over those lovely superhero quads.