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§ ita § - May 03, 2004 3:47:36 pm PDT #2308 of 10000

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think I missed an introduction to The Outsiders. What is it and should I start buying it?

The Outsiders used to be a group of misfits run by Batman, which ran concurrently with The New Teen Titans.

The Titans broke up when the member Troia (ex-Wonder Girl) was killed. Nightwing (ex-Robin, natch, ex-Titan) was convinced by Arsenal (also ex-Titan) to oversee another random group of superheroes, Outsiders #2 (Teen Titans also restarted, (current Robin, current Wonder Girl, Superboy, etc).

Polter-Cow - May 03, 2004 3:49:25 pm PDT #2309 of 10000

What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Nightwing (ex-Robin

Ooh, Nightwing is Robin? Things make so much more sense now, kind of.

amych - May 03, 2004 3:50:26 pm PDT #2310 of 10000

Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Nightwing is Robin?

Yep. Specifically, Dick Grayson.

(also, hawt.)

DXMachina - May 03, 2004 3:53:08 pm PDT #2311 of 10000

You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Am I the only person round these parts who knows who the original Nightwing was?

victor infante - May 03, 2004 3:57:10 pm PDT #2312 of 10000

To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Ooh, Nightwing is Robin? Things make so much more sense now, kind of.

Yep.

Nightwing = Dick Grayson = Robin I = Insecure bohunk every woman in the D.C. Universe (and a few outside) lust after.

Jason Todd = Robin II = Kind of annoying and dead

Tim Drake = Robin II = Sort-of current Robin, retiring so he can stop lying to his dad about what he's up to running around with emotionally insecure men in tights. Anyway, no one believes he's really going to stay quit. Kind of like when I give up smoking.

Stephanie Brown = Robin IV = Spoiler = Daughter of deceased Batman villain the Cluemaster, who's name should've been a hint that he wasn't long for this world. She picks up the mantle after Tim bails.

victor infante - May 03, 2004 3:58:26 pm PDT #2313 of 10000

To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Am I the only person round these parts who knows who the original Nightwing was?

It was Batman, wasn't it? In the bottled city of Kandor. And Superman was--I kid you not--Flamebird. Or do I have that reversed?

amych - May 03, 2004 3:59:16 pm PDT #2314 of 10000

Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

And I was gonna guess Liberace....

DXMachina - May 03, 2004 3:59:32 pm PDT #2315 of 10000

You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Almost. Superman was Nightwing and Jimmy Olson was Flamebird.

victor infante - May 03, 2004 4:00:43 pm PDT #2316 of 10000

To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Almost. Superman was Nightwing and Jimmy Olson was Flamebird.

Ah. Did Batman ever pick up that role, 'cause I've got a clear picture in my head, but no reference.

Maybe I'm thinking of Bippo the Super Monkey.

§ ita § - May 03, 2004 4:00:50 pm PDT #2317 of 10000

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Gah! I forgot about Flamebird and Nightwing! Nightwing was Superman, IIRC.

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