Oh, I dunno... I tend to think that Bats has great respect for Superman, although he's not blinded by the big giant S on his manly alien chest. They bicker. They snipe. They make a really awesome tag team.

Then again, I'm a little biased. Stuff like The Batman/Superman Movie and Loeb's current Superman/Batman run tend to make me go all Batz'N'Supez4Evah!!!!!!!1!

Oh sure, but you of all people should know that respect between them and subtextual (or even texual) tension does not in any way preclude Bruce wanting Clark to remain naive in case he ever has to kill his alien ass, nor prevent Bruce from putting him down like a mad dog if it ever comes to that.

It's what spices up their relationship.

Actually, I think Bats would put Flash near the top of the list. You'd want to take out the man who can move faster than you can think really quickly. Preferably before the Flash even knew he was a threat to Bats.

Actually, I think Bats would put Flash near the top of the list. You'd want to take out the man who can move faster than you can think really quickly. Preferably before the Flash even knew he was a threat to Bats.

Hmm.... Yeah. That being able to move faster than thought would definitely ratchet up the threat level there. He'd start low because his loyalties are less questionable, but you're right, the power skews him higher.

I'm betting Bats has a little mental threat-scale

Yes, except they're electronic. Files on every single one of 'em. He's got those Crays in his cave cranking away at any number of scenarios, probabilities, contingency plans, and neutralization methods both lethal and non.

Oh sure, but you of all people should know that respect between them and subtextual (or even texual) tension does not in any way preclude Bruce wanting Clark to remain naive in case he ever has to kill his alien ass

Naive about Bruce's contingency plans for him? Oh, sure. No argument there. Naive in general? I don't know about that one, because Bruce sure bitches about Clark's naivete often enough...

Edited because although I like Methos, he does not belong in this post.

Yeah, it depends on which criteria Bats is going by.

I mean, if he's going by power-level...

Supes/Martian Manhunter
Flash
Green Lantern (universe's most powerful weapon)
Wonder Woman
Plastic Man (can turn into just about anything)
Steel
Huntress (he can take her down in her own home any time he wants)

Who's in the current comics JLA line-up anyway?

re: last post by me.

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Wonder Woman: The Hiketeia (she beats up on Batman in this one)

This is probably the best WW storyline ever.

Karl Kesel's "World's Finest" was also a fantastic Bats/Supes story.

It's really wonderful, and I like the art.

MM, what's your opinion on Hush? Reviews I've seen have been mixed. (I've read the first half or so, and liked.)

You know, if you're already feeling out of emotional sorts? Don't, for the love of Mike, go back and re-read the last ten or so issues of Nightwing. Just... don't.

I didn't know it would hurt more on re-read.

Are they ever going to release Hush in paperback?

Wonder Woman: The Hiketeia (she beats up on Batman in this one)

This is probably the best WW storyline ever.

It's the first WW I've read since I was, oh, 8 or so. It's *really* good.

MM, what's your opinion on Hush? Reviews I've seen have been mixed. (I've read the first half or so, and liked.)

Haven't read it. I actually haven't actively collected comics in a couple years. The stories seemed to go through a slump o' suckage and I decided it wasn't worth the bucks I poured into it at the time. I became "pickier", buying the occasional interesting thing or collected stuff.

So I'm wwwwaaaayyyyy behind on a bunch of stuff.