the relaunch before this one, which brought back the original Titans
Despite my love for the second incarnation, and fondness for the first, that relaunch never grabbed me, even though it was mostly the same guys. But I didn't stay around very long.
You were very nearly devoured by a giant demon snake. The words 'let that be a lesson' are a tad redundant at this juncture.
Giles ,'Selfless'
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§ ita § - Apr 22, 2004 11:43:45 am PDT #1907 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Michele T. - Apr 22, 2004 12:34:18 pm PDT #1908 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi
She did the relaunch before this one, which brought back the original Titans. The characters were great, but somehow they started sucking as super heroes. Which was offensive to those of us who were reading it in the Wolfman/Perez days, when it sported the tagline, "They are the best there are."
I just read the recent relaunch, and I've got some questions.
1. How did Donna Troy die? (And why is there no mention of it in the Nightwing continuity, given that they were good friends?)
2. Didn't Starfire quit superheroing and go off somewhere? Why would she be hanging out with a bunch of kids now?
Uh, also, the only time I really liked Tim was the "You lied to Starfire?" "I lie to *Batman*" conversation. And one friend of mine was stunned speechless by the HoYay when I told her where Superboy came from; she'd seen it referred to in fic, but she thought it was fanon.
DavidS - Apr 22, 2004 12:39:54 pm PDT #1909 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
How did Donna Troy die? (And why is there no mention of it in the Nightwing continuity, given that they were good friends?)
I remember a conversation in Nightwing between Dick and Babs where she alludes to his relationship with Donna.
Sean K - Apr 22, 2004 12:40:27 pm PDT #1910 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
I loved this...
Please note how far we've gone without even mentioning sexuality.
She got very far without mentioning sexuality.
P.M. Marc - Apr 22, 2004 12:41:28 pm PDT #1911 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
IIRC, the blue chick killed her. (Indigo)
§ ita § - Apr 22, 2004 12:44:03 pm PDT #1912 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Donna Troy was killed by that strange computer girl in The Outsiders, except she (not Wonder Girl) was a Superman robot at the time. It's why the previous TT disbanded.
I can't accurately answer the Kory question without the comics in front of me.
Michele T. - Apr 22, 2004 12:54:40 pm PDT #1913 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi
I remember a conversation in Nightwing between Dick and Babs where she alludes to his relationship with Donna.
There's a couple of places where they talk about his being friends with Donna. Which is why I was surprised that her being dead didn't come up.
Do I need to read The Outsiders too?
esse - Apr 22, 2004 1:42:26 pm PDT #1914 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!
Whereas Dick had him, Bruce had no one.
What about Alfred? There's probably backstory and characterization I'm missing here.
Wow, that chick's brains are fucking hot.
§ ita § - Apr 22, 2004 2:40:01 pm PDT #1915 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Do I need to read The Outsiders too?
Yes. It's very gay.
Elais - Apr 22, 2004 4:17:35 pm PDT #1916 of 10000
making her home at bronzebeta.com since 2001
Many thanks for the link upthread to the Devin Grayson interview! It was a wonderful read. I haven't read her comics, but I enjoyed reading her Smallville book, 'City'.