why her Titans sucked so bad

Which ones did she do?

Devin on the HoYay:

I don't think they're gay (though I would have no problem with it if they were). I don't think they sleep together or hold circle jerks in the Batcave. But I do think that they're in an enormously complicated relationship that often suffers from an overabundance of trepidation hitting up against a deficiency of communication. I think they love each other familially, but that both of them have so little experience with family that they hardly know what that is or means. So now, in addition to all the good things they do for one another - and there are many good, healthy aspects to the relationship - Dick provides Bruce with a constant emotional challenge, always ready to go off - to accuse, to push, to question, to need things from him he's not sure he can give - while Bruce provides Dick with an irresistible, unsolvable mystery: how do you make a difference in the life of a person unwilling to be changed?

And one last comment before I leave this matter: I'm fairly certain that Greg Rucka, Chuck Dixon, and Ed Brubaker all have totally different ideas about this relationship, and I'm fairly certain that whatever they think, they're all correct. I don't hold this theory out as the be-all-end-all psychological evolution of the Wayne/Grayson dichotomy… this is just what's in my head and heart as I write, and I'm sure I would terrify myself if I tracked down the origins of this speculation in my own life. All I know is that it revs my motor, and gives me a lot to play with when I use these characters. This is the answer I got when I asked them about their relationship, and so this is the background material I'm using when I script.

Devin on Ghost Rider!

Stuart Moore, my editor on Ghost Rider, actively discouraged me from reading any old Ghost Rider comics. He wanted a fresh take. And the more my friends told me about the character and his history, the more I saw why. I'm not usually judgmental about these things, but what the fuck WAS all that? The SPIRIT OF VENGEANCE, folks - it's about as pure and naturally outfitted as a concept gets. We all know the spirit of vengeance. We know what it is and how it behaves and that you don't get to ask it any soul-searching questions like "were you once the soul of Noble Kane?" Who cares? It's the spirit of vengeance! As far as I'm concerned, that explains everything right there.

And I'll admit, too, that it was fun to be able to cut loose a little. Ghost Rider never took an oath not to kill. Ghost Rider doesn't suffer from compunction or fits of existential doubt. Ghost Rider isn't surrounded by a bunch of loyal allies fighting for his humanity. Ghost Rider has a bike and a chain and his head is on fire.

Ghost Rider is COOL.

Which ones did she do?

She did the relaunch before this one, which brought back the original Titans. The characters were great, but somehow they started sucking as super heroes. Which was offensive to those of us who were reading it in the Wolfman/Perez days, when it sported the tagline, "They are the best there are."

the relaunch before this one, which brought back the original Titans

Despite my love for the second incarnation, and fondness for the first, that relaunch never grabbed me, even though it was mostly the same guys. But I didn't stay around very long.

She did the relaunch before this one, which brought back the original Titans. The characters were great, but somehow they started sucking as super heroes. Which was offensive to those of us who were reading it in the Wolfman/Perez days, when it sported the tagline, "They are the best there are."

I just read the recent relaunch, and I've got some questions.

1. How did Donna Troy die? (And why is there no mention of it in the Nightwing continuity, given that they were good friends?)

2. Didn't Starfire quit superheroing and go off somewhere? Why would she be hanging out with a bunch of kids now?

Uh, also, the only time I really liked Tim was the "You lied to Starfire?" "I lie to *Batman*" conversation. And one friend of mine was stunned speechless by the HoYay when I told her where Superboy came from; she'd seen it referred to in fic, but she thought it was fanon.

How did Donna Troy die? (And why is there no mention of it in the Nightwing continuity, given that they were good friends?)

I remember a conversation in Nightwing between Dick and Babs where she alludes to his relationship with Donna.

I loved this...

Please note how far we've gone without even mentioning sexuality.

She got very far without mentioning sexuality.

IIRC, the blue chick killed her. (Indigo)

Donna Troy was killed by that strange computer girl in The Outsiders, except she (not Wonder Girl) was a Superman robot at the time. It's why the previous TT disbanded.

I can't accurately answer the Kory question without the comics in front of me.

I remember a conversation in Nightwing between Dick and Babs where she alludes to his relationship with Donna.

There's a couple of places where they talk about his being friends with Donna. Which is why I was surprised that her being dead didn't come up.

Do I need to read The Outsiders too?