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CaBil - Dec 02, 2002 6:15:30 pm PST #189 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

A Bill Willingham penned series about how the characters of our fables/myths (Snow White, Prince Charming, The three pigs, Jack (of the beanstalk)) have fled to our world after all of their worlds have been conquered.

Bill Willingham is one of those writers that was well known in the late 80s, early 90s, but sort of faded away for a while, but now is back.


DavidS - Dec 03, 2002 2:26:33 pm PST #190 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Bill Willingham is one of those writers that was well known in the late 80s, early 90s, but sort of faded away for a while, but now is back.

Did the Elementals, right?


CaBil - Dec 03, 2002 2:28:43 pm PST #191 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Yep, a title ahead of its time, unfortunately. Was one of the earliest 'realistic' takes on superhumans...


DavidS - Dec 03, 2002 2:30:37 pm PST #192 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Yep, a title ahead of its time, unfortunately.

Actually it was one of the most successful indie superhero comics of that time. It sold real well - probably as well as Mage or Nexus.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 03, 2002 2:42:23 pm PST #193 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I still remember Willingham as the guy who did the illustrations for all those Dungeons & Dragons modules back in the early 80s.


CaBil - Dec 03, 2002 2:45:49 pm PST #194 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Oh yeah, but without him running it, and Comico being crazy, it would have done a lot better. He eventually sold the rights to comico, which promptly distingerated.

What was interesting is that I think it was the only comic that ever had an official x-rated spinoff about the sex lives of the characters...


thessaly - Dec 03, 2002 2:57:26 pm PST #195 of 10000
"...and that calls for some hard-hitting, potentially violent SCIENCE!"

Wow - I'd forgotten that he did the Elementals...I was so sad when Comico got bought out and the series went to hell, since I'd just been introduced to it by a friend who had all the issues. After the financial troubles, they started with the 'Fathom Sex Special #25' and I wasn't interested anymore.

I also miss Piranha Press' 'Beautiful Stories for Ugly Children'.


§ ita § - Dec 03, 2002 2:59:46 pm PST #196 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I also miss Piranha Press' 'Beautiful Stories for Ugly Children'

Me too!


CaBil - Dec 03, 2002 3:06:55 pm PST #197 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

I wonder if there is still a market for that sort of superhero story anymore?


DavidS - Dec 03, 2002 4:01:54 pm PST #198 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I wonder if there is still a market for that sort of superhero story anymore?

If there's a market for Vertigo, then I'd think there's a market for smart hero stuff. Alan Moore's comics seem to be doing okay.