I'm just, uh, just feeling kinda... truthsome right now. And, uh... life's just too damn short for ifs and maybes.

Mal ,'Heart Of Gold'


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Kristen - Feb 29, 2004 11:32:35 am PST #1481 of 10000

I thought, from what Joss had said, that part of the reason his entire script got tossed was that they were already pretty far along in pre-production when he did his rewrite. That they had loved his script but it didn't gel with where they already were.

Then again, I was really drunk so I could be remembering wrong.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 29, 2004 11:47:40 am PST #1482 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

The delivery messed up that line, though.

I have a hard time imagining that line as good in any delivery, but I do agree that Halle's couldn't have been any more wrong, which is why I said "Halle's awful 'toad' bit" as opposed to Joss'. Just to be clear.


§ ita § - Feb 29, 2004 1:02:45 pm PST #1483 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I can see the line as being completely unremarkable, delivered as intended. Which would do wonders for Joss's box score, since the "You're a dick" was hands down my favourite of the movie. "The same thing that happens to anything else." keeps his average squarely at zero, since it was the only other line I remembered, for opposite reasons.

But, it does mean I got to see Joss trash Halle in print, so it may almost have been worth it. Especially if she's too special to make #3 and gets recast.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 29, 2004 3:02:57 pm PST #1484 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

"You're a dick" was definitely one of the best lines in the first movie, so yeah, Joss can hold his head up high on that one.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 29, 2004 7:38:26 pm PST #1485 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

"I am psychic, you know," was also a pretty memorable line, IMHO.


Volans - Mar 01, 2004 4:39:12 am PST #1486 of 10000
move out and draw fire

Kitty Pryde? Is that Shadowcat? (showing knowledge of X-Men that is lacking). Do you guys see the influences of Kitty on Buffy?


victor infante - Mar 01, 2004 4:41:08 am PST #1487 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Do you guys see the influences of Kitty on Buffy?

Well,they're both spunky.


DXMachina - Mar 01, 2004 4:48:04 am PST #1488 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I think Kitty would be more an influence on Willow than Buffy.


CaBil - Mar 01, 2004 6:08:17 am PST #1489 of 10000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Well, he may be thinking about the classic Kitty Pryde character.

She sort of went off to join Excalibur, the UK branch of mutant-dom, for most of the late 80s and 90s, and started shagging Pete Wisdom, an older, ex-spook mutant of some indeterminate power. They rebooted her in the late 90s, brought her back to her, umm, more innocent state and last I checked, she was taking classes in a Chicago area university.


§ ita § - Mar 01, 2004 6:37:21 am PST #1490 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

he may be thinking about the classic Kitty Pryde character.

I don't see how she maps, apart from age, to Buffy all that neatly.