he may be thinking about the classic Kitty Pryde character.
I don't see how she maps, apart from age, to Buffy all that neatly.
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§ ita § - Mar 01, 2004 6:37:21 am PST #1490 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
victor infante - Mar 01, 2004 6:53:27 am PST #1491 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
I don't see how she maps, apart from age, to Buffy all that neatly.
Well, at a guess, I think it may be because Kitty was supposed to be the one the reader was supposed to associate with. She had superhuman powers, certainly, but on the whole, she remained a "normal" young woman, while still being a hero.
§ ita § - Mar 01, 2004 6:55:41 am PST #1492 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
the one the reader was supposed to associate with
Weren't the readers predominantly teenaged boys? Wouldn't it be terribly uncool to associate with the geeky chick (yeah, I see her as more Willowy too)?
I don't think I ever identified with anyone in most comics. More of a dark side projection (see Wolverine) or simple awe (see Storm).
victor infante - Mar 01, 2004 7:09:55 am PST #1493 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
Weren't the readers predominantly teenaged boys? Wouldn't it be terribly uncool to associate with the geeky chick (yeah, I see her as more Willowy too)?
Not my point. X-Men had become a collection of larger-than-life characters who, while popular, didn't have anything to ground them into a common experience--which is why Kitty was added.
It wasn't a unique trick--"Spider-Man" is probably more a Buffy analog than anything X, but it worked. Kitty was hugely popular, without losing that "normal girl with super powers" feel.
§ ita § - Mar 01, 2004 7:13:33 am PST #1494 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Wait -- so you're saying that although it was in theory geeky, it worked? Or that it wasn't geeky?
Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 01, 2004 8:16:39 am PST #1495 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I'd say she was pretty geeky at first. Of course, during the Excaliber years they changed her from a somewhat plain techie who still had some shyness issues into a fashion model with a penchant for katanas who more or less took over the leadership role from Captain Britain.
§ ita § - Mar 01, 2004 8:18:34 am PST #1496 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
No, I meant geeky (I should have used a better word) for teenaged boys to associate themselves with her.
Kalshane - Mar 01, 2004 9:25:42 am PST #1497 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
Of course, during the Excaliber years they changed her from a somewhat plain techie who still had some shyness issues into a fashion model with a penchant for katanas who more or less took over the leadership role from Captain Britain.
Yikes. Seems like a good thing they did a reset. That sounds like every bad World of Darkness character I've ever seen. Did they have her wearing a black trenchcoat and sunglasses at night, too?
Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 01, 2004 9:41:56 am PST #1498 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Only alternate timeline evil versions. Though she did wear what amounted to a blue trenchcoat.
(I didn't mind them moving her into a sorta leadership role, by the way. She was clearly written as the smartest person on the team, and had more common sense than either Brian Braddock or Nightcrawler. I just object to every woman in comic books ending up looking like a vogue model.)
victor infante - Mar 01, 2004 1:00:15 pm PST #1499 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
No, I meant geeky (I should have used a better word) for teenaged boys to associate themselves with her.
I'd say geeky but it worked. I don't think you'd ever get a teenage boy to say, "Man, I feel JUST like this teenage, mutant science-nerd girl!" But I think that was the effect anyway.