Do you guys see the influences of Kitty on Buffy?
Well,they're both spunky.
See how I'm not punching him? I think I've grown.
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victor infante - Mar 01, 2004 4:41:08 am PST #1487 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
DXMachina - Mar 01, 2004 4:48:04 am PST #1488 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
I think Kitty would be more an influence on Willow than Buffy.
CaBil - Mar 01, 2004 6:08:17 am PST #1489 of 10000
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Well, he may be thinking about the classic Kitty Pryde character.
She sort of went off to join Excalibur, the UK branch of mutant-dom, for most of the late 80s and 90s, and started shagging Pete Wisdom, an older, ex-spook mutant of some indeterminate power. They rebooted her in the late 90s, brought her back to her, umm, more innocent state and last I checked, she was taking classes in a Chicago area university.
§ ita § - Mar 01, 2004 6:37:21 am PST #1490 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
he may be thinking about the classic Kitty Pryde character.
I don't see how she maps, apart from age, to Buffy all that neatly.
victor infante - Mar 01, 2004 6:53:27 am PST #1491 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
I don't see how she maps, apart from age, to Buffy all that neatly.
Well, at a guess, I think it may be because Kitty was supposed to be the one the reader was supposed to associate with. She had superhuman powers, certainly, but on the whole, she remained a "normal" young woman, while still being a hero.
§ ita § - Mar 01, 2004 6:55:41 am PST #1492 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
the one the reader was supposed to associate with
Weren't the readers predominantly teenaged boys? Wouldn't it be terribly uncool to associate with the geeky chick (yeah, I see her as more Willowy too)?
I don't think I ever identified with anyone in most comics. More of a dark side projection (see Wolverine) or simple awe (see Storm).
victor infante - Mar 01, 2004 7:09:55 am PST #1493 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
Weren't the readers predominantly teenaged boys? Wouldn't it be terribly uncool to associate with the geeky chick (yeah, I see her as more Willowy too)?
Not my point. X-Men had become a collection of larger-than-life characters who, while popular, didn't have anything to ground them into a common experience--which is why Kitty was added.
It wasn't a unique trick--"Spider-Man" is probably more a Buffy analog than anything X, but it worked. Kitty was hugely popular, without losing that "normal girl with super powers" feel.
§ ita § - Mar 01, 2004 7:13:33 am PST #1494 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Wait -- so you're saying that although it was in theory geeky, it worked? Or that it wasn't geeky?
Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 01, 2004 8:16:39 am PST #1495 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I'd say she was pretty geeky at first. Of course, during the Excaliber years they changed her from a somewhat plain techie who still had some shyness issues into a fashion model with a penchant for katanas who more or less took over the leadership role from Captain Britain.
§ ita § - Mar 01, 2004 8:18:34 am PST #1496 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
No, I meant geeky (I should have used a better word) for teenaged boys to associate themselves with her.